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  • They have character. They want no ones pity. They are not victims.

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  • Black folks are victims. We ought to make such talk illegal. The black folks should be compensated.

    9 27.27%
  • Neither

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Why wouldn't you tell the joke to some random black guy on the street?
    Because it is wrong and racist! What the hell is wrong with you?
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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Come now, you know perfectly well that a white comedian at a comedy club telling that joke would be lucky if he were not lynched.

    Contrariwise a black comedian can say things as bad or worse about a white politician and get away with it.


    Just admit there's a double standard and move on.
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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Why wouldn't you tell the joke to some random black guy on the street?
    I wouldn't go up to a random guy on the street and tell the following joke either:

    What's the difference between a cadillac and a pile of dead babies

    I don't have a Cadillac in my Garage.

    I also wouldn't go up to a random girl on the street and ask her "Do you have a any italian in you" and when she says no ask her "Do you want some"

    Does it mean those things are racist because I wouldn't go up to a random person on the street and say them? No, it means that jokes whose humor comes from being offensive are generally ACTUALLY offensive to a bad degree when made without any context, to complete strangers.

    Hanging black people, in a general sense sans context, is not funny.

    A pile of dead babies, in a general sense sans context, is not funny.

    Propositioning a woman for sex, without any prior interaction, is generally not funny.

    That doesn't mean that given a proper situations and context that they couldn't be funny.

    Which is why the idiotic "why won't you go up to a random black guy and say it" argument is as idiotic as Aaronssongs inverse of that suggesting that "nigger" is always, without questioning, evil to say because someone wouldn't stand in the middle of a mall just repeating it loudly over and over again.

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    It always amazes me that some folks are so rigidly attached to their position that they cannot grasp the concept of CONTEXT. Things are NOT black or white, nor, in nearly all cases, are their absolutes.
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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    From a denuded discussion about the prank in NJ calling for all black people to leave, 1069 believes the black people in the store are poor victims, having to suffer the embarrassment of being black and picked on. I think they are amde of sterner stuff and have every right to be offended but are not victims. From that this poll. Please explain yourself...

    ****, I missed the poll. Ahh, found it.
    They have character. They want no ones pity. They are not victims. Black folks are victims. We ought to make such talk illegal. The black folks should be compensated
    I thought that the poll questions and the idea was "ill-conceived" and badly worded.

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Being offended does not make you a victim.
    Being "victimized" can offend one.
    I think folks are getting confused by semantics.
    One can be "victimized", but refuse to "play the victim".
    I believe the blacks who left the store, complying with what was being instructed, were offended, and were "victimized" by the prankster.
    Calling the store out, for it's negligence is not "playing the victim"...it's calling the store into accountability. I'm sure given what people know now, they have moved on, and are unfazed. It's not like it's a new occurrence, with no basis in reality.

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    It always amazes me that some folks are so rigidly attached to their position that they cannot grasp the concept of CONTEXT. Things are NOT black or white, nor, in nearly all cases, are their absolutes.
    You see that quite a bit on discussion sites...

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How about this joke, but you do not know who is saying it-

    Hey did you hear that Halmark is making a Barack Obama Christmas ornament? Now everyone can hang a nigger from a tree.
    Who care who said it? It's a disgusting thing to say. I don't think context matters at all with this one. What's truly stupid is what passes for comedy these days. Comedians don't even try to be clever, they're out to elicit laughs by shocking.

    I will agree that when white people make racist jokes, there's a public outcry for apologies and rehab. When racist jokes come from a minority, it's suppose to be funny. Frankly, I don't see the humor in either nor do I see the pressure for sensitivity training. If someone wants to build a career on being offensive, let their careers suffer by not being supported by a disgusted public.
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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I am NOT going to admit to something I do not agree with. So, no. I stand by my position. Context is what matters.
    Oh, please. That seems to be the grounds for folks 'round here throwing the n-word around like it's salt.....context, or the lack thereof.
    Sometimes context matters, other times it does not.

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Would you tell the joke to a random black person(someone you do not know)?

    Hey did you hear that Halmark is making a Barack Obama Christmas ornament? Now everyone can hang a nigger from a tree.
    wow. racist much?

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