View Poll Results: Which is the racist position?

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  • They have character. They want no ones pity. They are not victims.

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  • Black folks are victims. We ought to make such talk illegal. The black folks should be compensated.

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Thread: Which is the racist position?

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Without context, impossible to determine.

    Come now, you know perfectly well that a white comedian at a comedy club telling that joke would be lucky if he were not lynched.

    Contrariwise a black comedian can say things as bad or worse about a white politician and get away with it.


    Just admit there's a double standard and move on.

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Does race matter in who told it? For example a black guy telling this joke to a white guy or a group of white guys telling each other this joke?
    Again, context is what matters. Race may or may not be one of the contextual components that can determine the outcome, but it is not the ONLY determinant, nor does it ALWAYS determine things.
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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Come now, you know perfectly well that a white comedian at a comedy club telling that joke would be lucky if he were not lynched.

    Contrariwise a black comedian can say things as bad or worse about a white politician and get away with it.


    Just admit there's a double standard and move on.
    I am NOT going to admit to something I do not agree with. So, no. I stand by my position. Context is what matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    That thread had amazing endurability thanks to a couple of people, mainly.

    They caught the kid, he was 16 years old.

    These racial matters evoke quite a bit of emotion in some.

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Again, context is what matters. Race may or may not be one of the contextual components that can determine the outcome, but it is not the ONLY determinant, nor does it ALWAYS determine things.
    Would you tell the joke to a random black person(someone you do not know)?

    Hey did you hear that Halmark is making a Barack Obama Christmas ornament? Now everyone can hang a nigger from a tree.
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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I am NOT going to admit to something I do not agree with. So, no. I stand by my position. Context is what matters.
    So, you actually think that a white comedian could tell that joke at a comedy club, and because of the context it would be okay? He wouldn't be crucified in the media? His career wouldn't be over?

    But contrariwise, we've had black comedians saying as bad or worse about, oh I dunno.... Dubya Bush... for years and years, and people just laugh if anyone is offended?


    You know damn well there's a double standard, Cap.

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Would you tell the joke to a random black person(someone you do not know)?

    Hey did you hear that Halmark is making a Barack Obama Christmas ornament? Now everyone can hang a nigger from a tree.
    No, because the context would be inappropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    1069 is a little screwed up in the head.

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, because the context would be inappropriate.
    Why would the context it be inappropriate? Is it because the joke is racist?
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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    So, you actually think that a white comedian could tell that joke at a comedy club, and because of the context it would be okay? He wouldn't be crucified in the media? His career wouldn't be over?

    But contrariwise, we've had black comedians saying as bad or worse about, oh I dunno.... Dubya Bush... for years and years, and people just laugh if anyone is offended?


    You know damn well there's a double standard, Cap.
    I am uninterested in what OTHERS think, when discussing what I think. To me, context is what matters. If someone takes offense at a white comedian telling a joke about blacks, then, for me, they are not getting the context, and my opinion of them would be that they are playing the victim.

    I also think that most folks who understand context would feel similarly to me, though their millage may vary to some extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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