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Thread: Ban The Box!

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    Re: Ban The Box!

    Except that it's not legal for employers to discriminate based on criminal records, which is why on applications it is required by law to explicitly state that (not that they don't, BTW).
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    Re: Ban The Box!

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If you are the employer you might care, if you use the services of that company you might care, or if you have to work around those individuals you might care. Not everybody changes when they get of out prison, to some prison is just a revolving door.
    But checking the convicted felon box keeps them from ever getting employment. This is known to contribute heavily to the revolving door syndrome.
    It should be up to the employer to give that individual a second chance. Because it will be that employer's ass if that individual does something and it is later found out by others that employee was a convicted in the past of a similar crime. That employer may not want to hire that individual if there is a risk he or she may repeat past bad behavior.
    When I had my own residential framing crew I hired many guys that had felonious records. I always asked what they were in for. Most were non-violent offenders. They admitted to their previous incarcerations, but explained that they never wanted to have to go back into the Pen. They weren't required to check a box and write out an explanation.

    I never had any trouble. I can only remember having to fire one guy for missing too much work. We built condos, apartments, tract homes, and custom homes all over the USA. Maybe yours.
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    Re: Ban The Box!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    But checking the convicted felon box keeps them from ever getting employment. This is known to contribute heavily to the revolving door syndrome.
    Again this should be up to the employer if they want to hire someone with a criminal record. You wouldn't expect a day center to hire someone who was convicted of child molestation or a strip club to hire a bouncer or DJ with a rape and assault record would you?

    When I had my own residential framing crew I hired many guys that had felonious records. I always asked what they were in for. Most were non-violent offenders. They admitted to their previous incarcerations, but explained that they never wanted to have to go back into the Pen. They weren't required to check a box and write out an explanation.

    I never had any trouble. I can only remember having to fire one guy for missing too much work. We built condos, apartments, tract homes, and custom homes all over the USA. Maybe yours.
    That is your business if you wish to hire those with criminal records. You took a chance it didn't burn you in the ass.
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    Re: Ban The Box!

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Again this should be up to the employer if they want to hire someone with a criminal record. You wouldn't expect a day center to hire someone who was convicted of child molestation or a strip club to hire a bouncer or DJ with a rape and assault record would you?
    They all check the 'NO' box anyway.

    That is your business if you wish to hire those with criminal records. You took a chance it didn't burn you in the ass.
    I never felt like I was taking a chance. I'm not naive.
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