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  • Against socialized medicine and abortion let the baby die

    1 11.11%
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  • for socialized medicine and against abortion let the baby live

    3 33.33%
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    Health Care Question (and Abortion)

    First read the question then answer the poll

    A baby is born with a serious medical condition, one that will cost $200 000 to cure. The parents do not have medical insurance and can not afoord to pay for the treatment. No private charity or group is willing to pay the bill either. The hospital is going to end treatment in 24 hr unless the government steps in

    What should happen accoring to you

    The government is going to have to pay if the baby is going to live
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    Re: Health Care Question (and Abortion)

    I am against abortion and I think the government should pay for this child. What society would let a child die over dollars? You can't put a price on human life. It's not the child's fault that the parents can't afford to pay for treatment, why should that be its death? The government should absolutely pay the tab and lend assistance.

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    Re: Health Care Question (and Abortion)

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I am against abortion and I think the government should pay for this child. What society would let a child die over dollars? You can't put a price on human life. It's not the child's fault that the parents can't afford to pay for treatment, why should that be its death? The government should absolutely pay the tab and lend assistance.
    So you tend to support socialized medicine then?

    Meaning the government should step in and pay for medical conditions for people who need help?
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    Re: Health Care Question (and Abortion)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So you tend to support socialized medicine then?

    Meaning the government should step in and pay for medical conditions for people who need help?
    Yes, I support socialized medicine to the degree that the government should help and healthcare should be available for everyone. Although I am not for an outright complete control over the healthcare system by the government. I believe in doctors independence and insurance for those who may chose to have it. I think the government should help and provide care for all, but they shouldn't "own" or control all the healthcare facilities and doctors.

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    Re: Health Care Question (and Abortion)

    None of the above. In this situation, in this country, the care would likely be provided regardless of the ability to pay or lack or resources.
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    Re: Health Care Question (and Abortion)

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    None of the above. In this situation, in this country, the care would likely be provided regardless of the ability to pay or lack or resources.
    By who?

    Someone will have to pay
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    Re: Health Care Question (and Abortion)

    Not really. There are plenty of situations where there is no payment for treatment provided. We see it regularly with premature neonates and critically ill adults or children. The medical care providers basically have to absorb the cost.
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    Re: Health Care Question (and Abortion)

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Not really. There are plenty of situations where there is no payment for treatment provided. We see it regularly with premature neonates and critically ill adults or children. The medical care providers basically have to absorb the cost.
    So your option is to force the medical providers to pay for the sick and ill?

    What if they decide to do the bare minimum which will result in the death of the baby?

    I believe most medical care providers will not buy the expensive drugs that certain types of cancer require, but they will provide medical care as the person dies (from the lack of the expensive drugs)
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    Re: Health Care Question (and Abortion)

    It's not my option to force anyone to do anything. That's just what happens in this country. We provide care to those who really need it, regardless of the money involved. It's how we are as a medical profession, and as a society.
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    Re: Health Care Question (and Abortion)

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Not really. There are plenty of situations where there is no payment for treatment provided. We see it regularly with premature neonates and critically ill adults or children. The medical care providers basically have to absorb the cost.
    Correction, these costs get added onto the bills for those who actually can pay... including the insurance companies, the government, and the patients who actually have money.

    This is why I support requiring all people to have health insurance. At least then everyone will be paying into the system.

    I don't care if the government runs health care... it will still be the doctors making the recommendations both for individual patients and for major policy changes.

    And I am against abortion... not to the point of considering it a crime; I simply think that if you screw up in life you need to deal with the consequences. Life is too precious. However I am OK with abortion in a rape case or when the mother's life is threatened by the birth.
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