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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    What would be the point of that? If the Constitution were so amended, it would prove that constitutions are useless instruments for guiding government action.
    We were never meant to keep this Constitution for as long as we have.

    The founders envisioned a revolution every generation, and I'd say that's about how long any Constitution is good for before it's corrupted.

    We were meant to be a society under constant rebirth; as I understand it that's why some wanted our national birth to be the phoenix.
    Last edited by Jerry; 03-15-10 at 07:45 PM.

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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    I don't currently own a gun, but if the govt was coming around to collect them all, I'd arm myself with someone elses gun and stand with them against such tyranny.

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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The founders envisioned a revolution every generation,
    They did? Where'd they say that?

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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    They did? Where'd they say that?
    Just something I learned in highschool

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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    They did? Where'd they say that?
    Jefferson's writings.
    Jefferson -- Quotations on Liberty
    Thomas Jefferson: 1787 Nov. 13. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." (to W. S. Smith, B.12.356
    Thankfully, we still have many liberties even 200 years after those writings, but freedom requires eternal vigilance.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Just something I learned in highschool
    Damned public education...



    I kinda got the sense they built the constitution with the intent to ensure the GOVERNMENT didnt become tyrannical and that as long as the rights of the citizens remained paramount there was a greater liklihood the government remained in check.

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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Jefferson's writings.
    Jefferson -- Quotations on Liberty

    Thankfully, we still have many liberties even 200 years after those writings, but freedom requires eternal vigilance.
    Jefferson was only one Founding Father, and hardly representative of the rest.

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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Jefferson was only one Founding Father, and hardly representative of the rest.
    You're right.....kind of.
    Founding Fathers Quotes
    John Adams: Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it
    -Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker. But if we had not, our fathers have earned and bought it for us, at the expense of their ease, their estates, their pleasure, and their blood.

    John Adams, A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765
    Check out the rest of the site, many of the founders were of similar thought on liberty and an armed populace.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It means that just because those in office make laws it does not always mean those laws are constitutional.
    So what?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    A supreme court with judges full of those who interpret the constitutional literally will rule anti-2nd amendment laws to be unconstitutional.
    And when was the last time that happend? Again more proof it IS subjective.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Since I am not infringing on anyone's else's rights then I can own anything I want?
    Because as I mentioned ALREADY, even rights have limits.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    We know rights have been restricted it still does not make those restrictions constitutional.
    It also does not make them un-constitutional. It works both ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The need to defend against a tyrannical government is just as important today as it was over 200 years ago when the 2nd amendment was written. It doesn't matter if the military back then used cannons,black powder muskets,primitive rockets and grenades,bombs and while today we have machine guns,more complex rockets and better grenades and bombs or if one day someone invents hand held solar powered laser pistol.
    That all sounds wonderful... And then reality sets in.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Seems all the more reason why the government has no business restricting 2nd amendment rights so that the people have the force to protect rights.
    I do not believe it covers anything beyond small arms, so no agreement from me.

    I agree the right to own guns is important. I don't believe it is a right that means any idiot can own explosives etc.
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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Just something I learned in highschool
    That explains alot.
    Last edited by misterman; 03-15-10 at 09:20 PM.

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