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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Seeing how there is a part at the end that shall not be infringed then the government has no business restricting,requiring licenses or registrations or any other pre-existing conditions to that right.
    Well the government disagrees and has been winning since 1934.
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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Well the government disagrees and has been winning since 1934.
    Just because the government disagrees does not mean they are correct. A right basically means something I do not have to ask the government permission to do nor does the government have any business trying to restrict that right.When we have to ask permission to do something then it is a privilege instead of a right and last I check the right to keep and bear arms is a constitutional right not a constitutional privilege.
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    fyi Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Well the government disagrees and has been winning since 1934.
    To his point,... those laws are not Constitutional.

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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Just because the government disagrees does not mean they are correct. A right basically means something I do not have to ask the government permission to do nor does the government have any business trying to restrict that right.When we have to ask permission to do something then it is a privilege instead of a right and last I check the right to keep and bear arms is a constitutional right not a constitutional privilege.
    If they are not Constitutional, why has this not changed? In fact since 1986 civilians can't even get newly manufactured machine guns.

    Now you can say it is unconstitutional all day, but the reality says no. Since 1934, it has not only never been overturned but added to in 86.
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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    If they are not Constitutional, why has this not changed? In fact since 1986 civilians can't even get newly manufactured machine guns.

    Now you can say it is unconstitutional all day, but the reality says no. Since 1934, it has not only never been overturned but added to in 86.
    You have to admit that just because the supreme court doesn't overturn something doesn't mean it isn't unconstitutional.

    Remember the New London case?
    Clearly there was no intent(in the Constitution) for towns to be able to take land to increase tax revenue.
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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You have to admit that just because the supreme court doesn't overturn something doesn't mean it isn't unconstitutional.

    Remember the New London case?
    Clearly there was no intent(in the Constitution) for towns to be able to take land to increase tax revenue.
    I agree, but the reality of the situation is the reality. All the well meaning and screaming of it's unconstitutional has not worked. It will not work now.

    Until we get a massive shake up of the status quo in Washington, this is not going to change.

    So my statements remain true, like it or not.
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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    If they are not Constitutional, why has this not changed? In fact since 1986 civilians can't even get newly manufactured machine guns.

    Now you can say it is unconstitutional all day, but the reality says no. Since 1934, it has not only never been overturned but added to in 86.
    How long did it take for the DC gun ban to be overturned since DC enacted their laws? Was it overnight,days, years or decades?
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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How long did it take for the DC gun ban to be overturned since DC enacted their laws? Was it overnight,days, years or decades?
    1976 to presant.

    1934 added to in 1986 and still going.

    Do the math.
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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    If they are not Constitutional, why has this not changed? In fact since 1986 civilians can't even get newly manufactured machine guns.

    Now you can say it is unconstitutional all day, but the reality says no. Since 1934, it has not only never been overturned but added to in 86.
    The government gets away with restricting our rights,... only because we let it go.

    The governments efforts in the laws you refer to has consistantly resulted in stockpiling and hoarding of guns and ammo.

    It would take me about 1 day to get a fully automatic rifle,... less than that if I want to ram a patrol car.

    As for the right to keep and bear being infringed?

    I'll let this lady splain it for you.

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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    The government gets away with restricting our rights,... only because we let it go.

    The governments efforts in the laws you refer to has consistantly resulted in stockpiling and hoarding of guns and ammo.

    It would take me about 1 day to get a fully automatic rifle,... less than that if I want to ram a patrol car.

    As for the right to keep and bear being infringed?

    I'll let this lady splain it for you.

    YouTube- Suzanna Gratia Hupp explains meaning of 2nd Amendment!
    Please spare me the drama. A woman defending herself with a pistol is not the same as these freaks who see owning a bazooka as a right.
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