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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Was anyone's ability to defend themselves reduced by this action?
    That's not the point. The point is why do cosmetics make a difference?
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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Was anyone's ability to defend themselves reduced by this action?
    Yes. It caused the price on many affordable weapons to sky rocket.

    It was a waste of tax payer dollars as well as it meant literally nothing in the way of affecting crime.

    When was the last time someone used a bayonet in a crime? That is an example of what a waste of time this legislation was.
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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's not the point. The point is why do cosmetics make a difference?
    The point is whether it was constitutional or not.

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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes. It caused the price on many affordable weapons to sky rocket.
    Why? And do you have a constitutional right to a cheap weapon?

    It was a waste of tax payer dollars as well as it meant literally nothing in the way of affecting crime.
    I think you're probably right about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    If the Federal government started confiscating weapons en masse, would you violently resist them?

    I say absolutely. I would rather die than let that happen.
    I would like to add that I am completely anti-gun,... I hate them. In fact, I'm making it my personal mission in life to collect and (maybe some day) destroy every gun I can get my hands on,...

    So, if you have a gun and want to help me in my worth and noble cause,... send them to me.

    P.S. I especially hate those military styled weapons with their high capacity mags and such... (send ammo too)


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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The point is whether it was constitutional or not.
    Then why did you bring up the point of whether they could protect themselves or not. The constitution is about the ownership of arms.
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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Why? And do you have a constitutional right to a cheap weapon?
    No, however it could be viewed as a backhanded way of the government essentially forcing guns out of the hands of the citizenry through a different means which would still violate the spirit of the law.

    It'd be akin to this misterman...

    Would you support people being able to have free speech, but requiring a permit to do so in places that you don't personally own or in locations that pay for the right to allow speech to occur in their location, due to the publics safety of having to regulate what speech they hear. Naturally, as the governments wants less speech to occur they begin to increase the price needed to get a lisense however suggest you're still able to speak freely on your property and still have an option to buy the ability to do it in public, so its not infringed.

    So is it okay in that instance for the government to infringe upon a right if they make it possible to pay to use more of the right and that they say you can only use that right in certain locations?

    Would it be constitutional and in the spirit of it in your mind if the government, rather than not issuing taxes on religions, began issuing a 250% property tax on all Mosque's due to concern with their links to terrorism, and continually increase its tax over time. Additionally it puts forth a tax on any utility provider that works with Mosque's. So over time Mosque's become too expensive to even run, thus restricting peoples ability to practice that religion. However apparently there should be nothing wrong with that, because I mean...is there a constitutional right that it should be cheap to run a Mosque or that the freedom of expression must actually be free in terms of the moneys used for it?

    Its amazing that people want almost no restriction to be placed on Freedom of Speech (remember the, correct, uproar over "free speech zones"?), Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Religion, etc...

    But the Right to Bare Arms? Hell, restrict the crap out of that one.

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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Why? And do you have a constitutional right to a cheap weapon?



    I think you're probably right about that.
    Is there a Constitutional right to an expensive one? Do you have a constitutional right to anything cheap, like healthcare?
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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Why? And do you have a constitutional right to a cheap weapon?
    No, but when the government through their (waste of tax payer time and money) actions restricts the availability, whether they meant to or not, it does affect peoples rights.
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    Re: Would You Resist Federal Confiscation?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then why did you bring up the point of whether they could protect themselves or not. The constitution is about the ownership of arms.
    Just wondering if anyone links the 2nd Amendment to self-defense.

    If it's about nothing but ownership of arms, that would imply there are no limits, and I can buy a surface-to-air missile or small thermonuclear device or whatever.

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