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Thread: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

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    Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    One of the justifications for a broad interpretation of the second amendment is that it allows citizens the option of overthrowing the government if things get too bad.

    In short, since our military has a tanks, missiles, etc, is it even possible?

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    No, it wouldn't be possible to overthrow the government, the government wouldn't use regular troops or law enforcers, they'd use Delta Force and that is a group that cannot be fought against and won.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    There are over 300 million Americans. If only ten percent of them revolted that would be 30 million insurgents spread across one of the largest and most diverse land masses on the planet. There is no way the government could defeat such a force.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Any government can be overthrown, but over the centuries ours has been made exceptionally difficult to do so. It would require almost the entire nation boycotting the economy, a troup rebellion, and an armed populace all working together in a gigantic coup. So yes, it would be possible, but not probable.
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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    No, it wouldn't be possible to overthrow the government, the government wouldn't use regular troops or law enforcers, they'd use Delta Force and that is a group that cannot be fought against and won.
    Yea, they're just invincible, and there's so many of them, too...

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    One of the justifications for a broad interpretation of the second amendment is that it allows citizens the option of overthrowing the government if things get too bad.

    In short, since our military has a tanks, missiles, etc, is it even possible?
    I say it is very possible which is why anti-2nd amendment nuts try to restrict 2nd amendment rights.There are a estimated 200 million privately own firearms in the US and only 1,473,900 active and 1,458,500 reserve in the military and not all those are combat specialties(most of those are probably support MOS)
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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yea, they're just invincible, and there's so many of them, too...
    yeah, one thing about Delta Force is that they don't mess around. Unlike the American public who says lots of things but don't do anything to back it up. There wouldn't even be a revolution, and yeah ten percent of the population wouldn't be a hard thing to defeat for the military and Delta Force would wipe out the leaders of the rebellion really fast.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    yeah, one thing about Delta Force is that they don't mess around. Unlike the American public who says lots of things but don't do anything to back it up. There wouldn't even be a revolution, and yeah ten percent of the population wouldn't be a hard thing to defeat for the military and Delta Force would wipe out the leaders of the rebellion really fast.
    I am not so sure I agree. If that were the case than guerrilla warfare shouldn't present such a problem to our military.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    It all depends on how compliant the military and law enforcement would be with taking down their fellow citizens. I'm sure the government has already figured out what it would do in such an event.

    I agree that insurgency would cause problems but I highly doubt that the majority of Americans have that kind of revolutionary spirit. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but your population is fat, lazy, and unhealthy. Most people would just sit back and be afraid.

    The skills involved for watching your government and deciding when is the right time to act is something that needs to be cultivated. I don't think most people do that. How many people even go out and protest? I say that protestors are the minority, which is why very little ever changes.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I am not so sure I agree. If that were the case than guerrilla warfare shouldn't present such a problem to our military.
    This is going basely on memory of mine, but back when Iraq was experiencing like over 100 bombs going off per month, the US military implemented something top-secret and the month after there were fewer than 10bombs going off in the whole of Iraq. The US military holds top secret weapons that are good enough to deal with any guerrilla warfare, like there is this radar that the military can use and it can spot targets on the group regardless if they are using the trees for cover, the radar can still see you. So that would help make guerilla warefare hard. And then again, Delta Force is a really good unit.

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