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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    This leaves aside how many soldiers and cops would end up on the side of the rebels.
    I suspect there would be a lot. Probably enough to render the US military and most police departments ineffective.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Why would they replace them when they're likely to get killed?

    Gee, the last guy who held this position got killed by a sniper, but I'm sure it'll be different for me...
    That has been the case with all the rest of the presidents assassinated...
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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Let's see... could a rag-tag bunch of lightly-armed rebels take on and defeat a government with the mightiest military ever seen on the face of the earth?


    Gosh, I just don't know... let's ask Ben Franklin and see what he thinks.




    (in case you didn't get it, that's exactly what the Founders of the USA did when they sought independence from Great Britain.)
    Not exactly. The whole logistic problem the British had would not be the case in this, and the military is much better armed compared to the populace than the british where to the Americans.
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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Everyone knows the Federal government is invincible, what with their tanks and radar and whatnot. Really, resistance would be futile, so there's no need to have guns. Just hand them over already, it's for your own good, really...
    Holy intellectual dishonesty...
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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I suspect there would be a lot. Probably enough to render the US military and most police departments ineffective.
    Yup. Basically, our 5 million military-and-police combo might be able to field 500,000 actual fighters (combat arms, SWAT, etc) at the most optimistic... and maybe another million or so half-arse combatants.

    If 10% of American gun owners rebelled, that would be 9 million people. Statistically at least a quarter of those would be veterans.

    Not looking so good for the forces of Big Government now, is it?

    Now... most of my buddies are current or former Military, or ex-cops. The question comes up sometimes: "what are you going to go if the government orders you to act against the Constitutional rights of American citizens?" Almost everyone I know says "Refuse the orders".

    Granted, it would take a lot to stir up that kind of rebellion... if cable TV went off the air, and Beer were no longer available in the stores and bars, and the government could be made to bear the blame, that would do it.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not exactly. The whole logistic problem the British had would not be the case in this, and the military is much better armed compared to the populace than the british where to the Americans.

    Actually I've addressed that. If it ever actually got so bad that armed rebellion was our only recourse to preserve liberty, I'd be surprised if much less than half of the military didn't refuse the orders or actively side with the rebels.

    Admittedly, I base this on knowing lots of current and former servicemen, rather than some sourceable study sponsored by Harvard.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Nah, those are all just a bunch of stupid rednecks. You can tell because they're in the military and have those big, scary guns. [/sarcasm]
    That's actually my squad in Karma Iraq. Many of the people in that picture are civilians now.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    So, if there were a zombie apocalypse, how many of those 5 million people could be mobilized quickly enough to quell the flesh eaters?

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That has been the case with all the rest of the presidents assassinated...
    But those were all the result of isolated incidents, not asymmetric warfare.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    So, if there were a zombie apocalypse, how many of those 5 million people could be mobilized quickly enough to quell the flesh eaters?

    Actually studies show that most would desert during a major disaster/epoxyclips, and go home to protect their families.

    1/3 would desert on Day 1.

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