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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Why would they replace them when they're likely to get killed?

    Gee, the last guy who held this position got killed by a sniper, but I'm sure it'll be different for me...
    In a time of war, the only person who matters is POTUS and his generals. If you think they are going to be accessible to the public for assassination, you're barking up the wrong tree. It doesn't matter if congress is shot or not. POTUS would just declare a state of emergency and use all the powers therein, including the military.

    I'm not saying that insurgency couldn't put up a resistance, but it would be fighting a losing battle, especially if the revolt is fueled by a relatively small percentage of the population... like 10%, as you mentioned. The government could easily use a media campaign to demonize those people, gain the support of the military, and the complacency of the rest of the population.

    Unless 50% of the U.S., from ALL partisan leanings, is willing to lay down its life to overthrow the government, there is no point.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    More than likely, nothing like that would happen.
    If the Federal government went around trying to collect weapons from gun owners, I think much more than 10% of them would have a serious problem with it.

    That is why a successful insurgency is mostly psychology.
    Agree, which is why a small but determined force like AQ can cause such big problems for a hard military power like the US. The American military is actually starting to become over-reliant on technology. It's a critical weakness that could be exploited to great effect.

    You have to also remember that police and military wouldn't necessarily do as they say they would.
    They would weigh that against losing pay, their own freedom and possibly making their families destitute by doing so.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Unless 50% of the U.S., from ALL partisan leanings, is willing to lay down its life to overthrow the government, there is no point.

    Yet, this was not the case in the American Revolution. I have read that in the early days of the Revolution, only 3% of the population actively supported it.

    It grew over time (years), as people began to believe that the rag-tag band of lightly-armed rebels we know know as the Founding Fathers could actually pull it off.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yet, this was not the case in the American Revolution. I have read that in the early days of the Revolution, only 3% of the population actively supported it.

    It grew over time (years), as people began to believe that the rag-tag band of lightly-armed rebels we know know as the Founding Fathers could actually pull it off.
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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Of course it is! And it may happen soon..

    Best be careful what ya post about this as the gov. web bots are out in full force and you really do not want them showing up to ya door. Be VERY careful what you say online in reguards to this.
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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    My tank in 2010 beats your musket in.... whenever you are talking about.

    I assume that was tongue in cheek. We have much better weapons than muskets these days.

    Tanks, btw, are not invincible gods of war. They have vulnerabilities that can be exploited by those who are aware of them.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by kali View Post
    of course it is! And it may happen soon..

    Best be careful what ya post about this as the gov. Web bots are out in full force and you really do not want them showing up to ya door. Be very careful what you say online in reguards to this.
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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No one has mentioned anything about banning guns in this thread that I saw...
    It'd be the most likely scenario under which an armed revolt would occur, so it is germane to the discussion. That Hazlnut and Hatuey are both anti-Second Amendment is a matter of fact.

    ...and you are the only one being insulting.
    Towards two people who are notoriously abrasive and inflammatory. I never said anything about you, though, and do not consider you inflammatory or abrasive.

    Gunships in fact would be used, and I think you know that. He may not be entirely accurate, but he is not as far off as you have been.
    Of course they would be used, but that doesn't mean the entire argument can be encapsulated by a picture of a gunship and four fat-ass hillbillies. Hazlnut is the one who is being intellectually dishonest. He's just hear to carry out his marching orders from Media Matters.

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    Re: Is it possible to overthrow the US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It'd be the most likely scenario under which an armed revolt would occur, so it is germane to the discussion. That Hazlnut and Hatuey are both anti-Second Amendment is a matter of fact.
    I actually am not so sure that is the most likely scenario. Guns simply are not that important to the vast majority of the population. For those who they are important to, they are very important, but it's not really that big an issue.

    I think if I had to name the most likely scenario resulting in an armed revolution in the US, it would be in response to a president deciding to escalate his role into dictator.

    Did either of the two mention banning guns?

    Towards two people who are notoriously abrasive and inflammatory. I never said anything about you, though, and do not consider you inflammatory or abrasive.
    They where not particularly abusive or abrasive in this case.

    Of course they would be used, but that doesn't mean the entire argument can be encapsulated by a picture of a gunship and four fat-ass hillbillies. Hazlnut is the one who is being intellectually dishonest. He's just hear to carry out his marching orders from Media Matters.
    Have you ever met any militia types? I live in Michigan(remember the Michigan militia?), and have met a few. The picture is not that inaccurate.

    I doubt highly that Media Matters even knows about this thread, or that they care, since it has nothing to do with their purpose.
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