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    Is voting a right

    I've seen various people on this site claim that people on governmental aid shouldn't be allowed to vote. Now my thought is that voting is a fundamental right, as we live in a democratic republic. Voting is what makes this a democratic form of government (can we please not quibble over semantics), as opposed to some sort of oligarchy, and as thus shouldn't be taken away without due process. What are your thoughts?
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    Re: Is voting a right

    We deny voting based on age.

    Originally it was only given to white land owning men.

    So in that regard there is nothing in the constitution that provides a clear statement to this.


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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    We deny voting based on age.

    Originally it was only given to white land owning men.

    So in that regard there is nothing in the constitution that provides a clear statement to this.
    Restricting voting due to age is a separate issue. A minor isn't considered to be a full citizen and has several rights restricted. Minors can't do lots of things an adult can.

    Technically, right now any banning of voting rights violates the 14th amendment, but I'm talking about this in an general sense, not a constitutional sense
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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I've seen various people on this site claim that people on governmental aid shouldn't be allowed to vote. Now my thought is that voting is a fundamental right, as we live in a democratic republic. Voting is what makes this a democratic form of government (can we please not quibble over semantics), as opposed to some sort of oligarchy, and as thus shouldn't be taken away without due process. What are your thoughts?
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    Re: Is voting a right

    We also restrict voting privileges to felons. Being able to vote is a privilege.

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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Restricting voting due to age is a separate issue. A minor isn't considered to be a full citizen and has several rights restricted. Minors can't do lots of things an adult can.

    Technically, right now any banning of voting rights violates the 14th amendment, but I'm talking about this in an general sense, not a constitutional sense
    Should those who are dependent on the government be considered full citizens?

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    Re: Is voting a right

    Restricting voting due to age is a separate issue. A minor isn't considered to be a full citizen and has several rights restricted. Minors can't do lots of things an adult can.
    Same argument was made about blacks and women.

    Technically, right now any banning of voting rights violates the 14th amendment, but I'm talking about this in an general sense, not a constitutional sense
    Well in the general sence, since 17 and under are not allowed to vote it means that the goverment can decide the qualifications thus it becomes a privilege.


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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Same argument was made about blacks and women.
    You really can't compare the situation with minors and with minorities. Minors are still developing the mental faculties it takes to be a member of society.


    Well in the general sence, since 17 and under are not allowed to vote it means that the goverment can decide the qualifications thus it becomes a privilege.
    It's different because minors aren't full citizens. A minor can't sit on a jury or issue a lawsuit or even go to prison without being declared an adult.
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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Should those who are dependent on the government be considered full citizens?
    Yes, why wouldn't they? They're of the age of majority and no court of law has found them guilty of anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    We also restrict voting privileges to felons. Being able to vote is a privilege.
    That is because their rights were taken away through due process. We lock up felons for years and years, if you tried to do that to a regular citizen it'd be a crime. Hell, we kill felons on occasion. Your argument holds no weight.
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    Re: Is voting a right

    My knee jerk reaction is one of "No, voting is a privilege, not a right". However, it is a little more complicated and I think it's a good question that should be looked into a little deeper. I really feel that it's a privilege, as felons (for one example) do not participate in voting - if it were a right, they would still be able to do so.

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