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Thread: Is voting a right

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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I've seen various people on this site claim that people on governmental aid shouldn't be allowed to vote. Now my thought is that voting is a fundamental right, as we live in a democratic republic. Voting is what makes this a democratic form of government (can we please not quibble over semantics), as opposed to some sort of oligarchy, and as thus shouldn't be taken away without due process. What are your thoughts?
    There is no constitutional right to vote.

    It is a privilege.
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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I've seen various people on this site claim that people on governmental aid shouldn't be allowed to vote. Now my thought is that voting is a fundamental right, as we live in a democratic republic. Voting is what makes this a democratic form of government (can we please not quibble over semantics), as opposed to some sort of oligarchy, and as thus shouldn't be taken away without due process. What are your thoughts?
    I agree with you that voting is a universal right in a democracy, but I think the vote doesn't mean much anymore. There are so many people now that it's impossible for my small opinion to be conveyed in any meaningful way to government power. I don't feel represented, no matter who is in power.

    I call my local MP sometimes to complain about things, but as if they are going to bring it up in provincial cabinet. So then what, I have to go make a petition with 50,000 signatures in order for my idea to even be heard; and people are so complacent about letting the government run them over, that they could care less.

    You guys have it worse down South. At least up here we have a few parties to choose from. Your two party system might as well be one-party rule with how things are shaping up.

    I feel that whatever the next paradigm is for humanity, our current system will not be part of it. We live in degenerate times.

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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Obviously you've never been a boss.
    Nor will I ever. I earn my own living.
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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    Nor will I ever. I earn my own living.
    ROFL wtf do you think your bosses do?

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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Civilly debating a controversial point of view: So easy even this cave-man can do it
    You're surprised that people react negatively when you make completely ridiculous and offensive comments based on little more than your own innate biases?

    The fact that a particular group of people doesn't vote the way you would like them to is not a rationale for denying them the right to vote. If we allocated voting rights on such an arbitrary manner, you might find yourself on the short end of the stick.
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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    Nor will I ever. I earn my own living.
    That's special. Since you are unmanageable and unpromotable, I will therefore discount your opinion of bosses. Have a nice day.

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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    ROFL wtf do you think your bosses do?
    Profit immensely from my labor.
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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    … The reasoning behind the idea of banning governmental aid recipients from voting is so that they don't keep voting themselves more money or keeping big-gov politicians in office.

    This is also the exact same reason why single women should not be allowed to vote, but I digress.

    The danger in creating a requirement of financial independence is that you invariably create new ways to abuse the system. Title19 and SMART users are those we have in mind to keep from voting, but what about those using section8 housing assistance, Social Security, or veteran's benefits?

    The greater evil is blocking those on government assistance from voting. The problem of big government must be dealt with another way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    … I claimed that women would use the government for money …

    I claimed that expanding government was an established voting trend of single women …
    You claimed that “single women should not be allowed to vote” because in effect they will vote their interests.

    But, of course, that is the foundation of democracy: people voting their interests.

    You just don't like the way single women see their interests. Hence you would seek to exclude them.

    You don't love true democracy because oftentimes the outcome is not in agreement with your perception of your interests.

    The only conclusion I have is that women are changing our society because, at last, just in this past century they have a direct hand in shaping it.

    Don't like it? Tough, meet you at the ballot box.
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    Re: Is voting a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post




    If you feel you're capable of challenging my position on an intellectual level then please feel free to try. I claimed that women would use the government for money, not for thinking. Give it your best

    I claimed that expanding government was an established voting trend of single women, and here's a link:

    Greenberg Quinlan Rosner | News



    As Democrat policies such as Universal Health Care expand government, while Republican policies such as school vouchers reduce the size of government, and that these examples represent the typical difference between the Left and the Right, this graph clearly represents my claim of single women expanding government.
    Jesus ****ing christ Jerry, your entire 'argument' (if you could call it that) boils down to preventing people from voting if they vote Democrat. You do realize how absurd that is, surely.

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    Re: Is voting a right

    i think of voting as both a right and a duty towards the government, but thats 'cause i have compulsory universal sufferage, hence it's something that has to be done.
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