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    Re: Is killing a human always a bad thing?

    Case in point: Hitler
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    Re: Is killing a human always a bad thing?

    Yes.

    The way I look at it, it is always bad to kill a human.

    However, sometimes it is necessary.

    In many cases of brutal crimes, I would support the death penalty.

    But the death penalty is still a bad thing.

    Meh, it's one ****ed up world.
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    Re: Is killing a human always a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Yes.

    The way I look at it, it is always bad to kill a human.

    However, sometimes it is necessary.

    In many cases of brutal crimes, I would support the death penalty.

    But the death penalty is still a bad thing.

    Meh, it's one ****ed up world.
    if it's necessary, then why is it bad?

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    Re: Is killing a human always a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    if it's necessary, then why is it bad?
    Because in my mind, the taking of another sentient life is never a good thing.

    But sometimes, also in my mind, it is necessary.

    Haven't really thought about it much beyond that, so I really can't answer in more detail.

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    Re: Is killing a human always a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    In another thread(Human shields), a poster has argued that whenever you kill a person, no matter the situation, the result, or the person's deeds, it is always a bad thing.

    Is it so?

    Just to clarify, the question is not if killing a human can be a good thing, but if it is always a bad thing.
    To me the only time it is acceptable is in self defence. To some extent I almost think it is a duty if necessary for self defence because otherwise you are not honouring yourself but, it really does need to be self defence - not things like the shooting of burglars in the back as they flee.

    We have a responsibility to protect ourselves and those who are dependent on us - our children or the State to protect the public, but anything which uses more than the minimum of force needed cannot ever be seen as 'good' or a skillful way of dealing with things imo.
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    Re: Is killing a human always a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Because in my mind, the taking of another sentient life is never a good thing.
    Can't it be not good and not bad at the same time?
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    Re: Is killing a human always a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Can't it be not good and not bad at the same time?
    It depends on your definitions of "good" and "bad".
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    Re: Is killing a human always a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    It depends on your definitions of "good" and "bad".
    That's not my point here.
    If you'll decide to lift up your hand now for no actual reason, would it be a good thing or a bad thing?
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    Re: Is killing a human always a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    That's not my point here.
    If you'll decide to lift up your hand now for no actual reason, would it be a good thing or a bad thing?
    Neither. Lifting a hand and ending a life are completely different actions with very different consequences, so what point are you hoping to make?
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    Re: Is killing a human always a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Neither. Lifting a hand and ending a life are completely different actions with very different consequences, so what point are you hoping to make?
    That something can be neither good nor bad, and hence reasoning the perception of an action as a "bad thing" with "I can't see it as a good thing" is a logical fallacy.
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