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    Do you support an National ID?

    Do you support an National ID?


    I say no, I think this is just a an excuse to nationalize IDs with the hollow promises of enforcement. I do not want the government having my biometric data, it is not none of their business


    FOXNews.com - 5 Reasons Why America Should Steer Clear of a National ID Card

    A national ID hurts American workers while pretending to help them.

    First, every worker would have to ask permission from the federal government to get a job. American workers shouldn’t have to beg or plead to anybody to get permission to work. Being employed should be a private agreement between an employer and employee. Period. The government should get out of the way.

    Second, carrying around government papers with biometric identification on it conjures up images of a more technologically savvy Oceania or East Germany. No thanks.

    Third, the system will exclude millions of legal workers by accident and fail to catch the majority of undocumented immigrants. For instance, if E-Verify were instituted nation-wide 3.6 million Americans would be denied employment each year and have to visit the Social Security Administration to correct their records. The employer either fires them or delays training. Will a biometric ID card make this system better? How does that help American workers?

    Fourth, it will cost businesses up to $800 to buy a scanner. Or as Senator Chuck Schumer says, employers can just go down to the DMV. Senator Schumer doesn’t know squat about running a business. The last thing an employer wants to do is spend time at the DMV when he could be spending it improving his business. And all this during an economic slump!

    Fifth, it would treat every American like a criminal by requiring them to enter their most intimate and personal data into a government database. One of the benefits of not having committed any crimes is that my information is not in a government record office. I’d like to keep it that way.
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    Re: Do you support an National ID?

    I don't want the government any closer to me than they are now and that's still too close. And while I do like the idea of controlling illegals getting jobs, I don't like it enough to cozy up to Schumer on this idea. The last thing the government needs is my biometric information and #2 above is very clearly coming through. Yet more government intrusion? Hell no.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Do you support an National ID?

    Hell no. I have a SS card of sorts and a State issued ID. That's more than enough already.
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    Re: Do you support an National ID?

    I have a very mixed opinion on this, though there could be alot of benefits and I don't fear government conspiracy with my biometric data, there are too many other ifs. Theres also the technological hurdle of businesses having to buy an id card scanner. Id have to say 'probably no'.

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    Re: Do you support an National ID?

    It would be an excellent way to deal with illegal immigration and would make it much easier for employers to screen properly.

    p.s. I only really support it if is tattooed onto our hands in bar code, aka "the mark of the beast."

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    Re: Do you support an National ID?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I don't want the government any closer to me than they are now and that's still too close. And while I do like the idea of controlling illegals getting jobs, I don't like it enough to cozy up to Schumer on this idea. The last thing the government needs is my biometric information and #2 above is very clearly coming through. Yet more government intrusion? Hell no.
    I do not want illegals getting jobs period. I just do not trust the government to uphold their end of the deal,nor do I want national ID.Besides why would people who already knowingly break the law by hiring illegals somehow give a rats ass about a national ID card?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Do you support an National ID?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not want the government having my biometric data, it is not none of their business
    I agree with that statement.



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    Re: Do you support an National ID?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do you support an National ID?
    Never would I support it, it's bad enough they have the data they have now. I barely trust them with my passport and national insurance.


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    Re: Do you support an National ID?

    How would a national ID differ from the information that the government already has about you?

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    Re: Do you support an National ID?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    How would a national ID differ from the information that the government already has about you?
    It would all be in one place (the National ID introduced in UK has all data stored in one place)

    Whereas now, various rubbish bureaucracies have a hold of different parts of data about me and because I know UK quangos are so **** and disorganised, it works to my advantage.


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