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Do you support an National ID?

Do you support an National ID?


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Do you support an National ID?


I say no, I think this is just a an excuse to nationalize IDs with the hollow promises of enforcement. I do not want the government having my biometric data, it is not none of their business


FOXNews.com - 5 Reasons Why America Should Steer Clear of a National ID Card

A national ID hurts American workers while pretending to help them.

First, every worker would have to ask permission from the federal government to get a job. American workers shouldn’t have to beg or plead to anybody to get permission to work. Being employed should be a private agreement between an employer and employee. Period. The government should get out of the way.

Second, carrying around government papers with biometric identification on it conjures up images of a more technologically savvy Oceania or East Germany. No thanks.

Third, the system will exclude millions of legal workers by accident and fail to catch the majority of undocumented immigrants. For instance, if E-Verify were instituted nation-wide 3.6 million Americans would be denied employment each year and have to visit the Social Security Administration to correct their records. The employer either fires them or delays training. Will a biometric ID card make this system better? How does that help American workers?

Fourth, it will cost businesses up to $800 to buy a scanner. Or as Senator Chuck Schumer says, employers can just go down to the DMV. Senator Schumer doesn’t know squat about running a business. The last thing an employer wants to do is spend time at the DMV when he could be spending it improving his business. And all this during an economic slump!

Fifth, it would treat every American like a criminal by requiring them to enter their most intimate and personal data into a government database. One of the benefits of not having committed any crimes is that my information is not in a government record office. I’d like to keep it that way.
 
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I don't want the government any closer to me than they are now and that's still too close. And while I do like the idea of controlling illegals getting jobs, I don't like it enough to cozy up to Schumer on this idea. The last thing the government needs is my biometric information and #2 above is very clearly coming through. Yet more government intrusion? Hell no.
 
Hell no. I have a SS card of sorts and a State issued ID. That's more than enough already.
 
I have a very mixed opinion on this, though there could be alot of benefits and I don't fear government conspiracy with my biometric data, there are too many other ifs. Theres also the technological hurdle of businesses having to buy an id card scanner. Id have to say 'probably no'.
 
It would be an excellent way to deal with illegal immigration and would make it much easier for employers to screen properly.

p.s. I only really support it if is tattooed onto our hands in bar code, aka "the mark of the beast."
 
I don't want the government any closer to me than they are now and that's still too close. And while I do like the idea of controlling illegals getting jobs, I don't like it enough to cozy up to Schumer on this idea. The last thing the government needs is my biometric information and #2 above is very clearly coming through. Yet more government intrusion? Hell no.

I do not want illegals getting jobs period. I just do not trust the government to uphold their end of the deal,nor do I want national ID.Besides why would people who already knowingly break the law by hiring illegals somehow give a rats ass about a national ID card?
 
Do you support an National ID?

Never would I support it, it's bad enough they have the data they have now. I barely trust them with my passport and national insurance.
 
How would a national ID differ from the information that the government already has about you?
 
How would a national ID differ from the information that the government already has about you?

It would all be in one place (the National ID introduced in UK has all data stored in one place)

Whereas now, various rubbish bureaucracies have a hold of different parts of data about me and because I know UK quangos are so **** and disorganised, it works to my advantage.
 
Do you support an National ID?


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Fifth, it would treat every American like a criminal by requiring them to enter their most intimate and personal data into a government database. One of the benefits of not having committed any crimes is that my information is not in a government record office. I’d like to keep it that way.
What do you think government run healthcare is going to do? ;)

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Do you support an National ID?


I say no, I think this is just a an excuse to nationalize IDs with the hollow promises of enforcement. I do not want the government having my biometric data, it is not none of their business


FOXNews.com - 5 Reasons Why America Should Steer Clear of a National ID Card

A national ID hurts American workers while pretending to help them.

First, every worker would have to ask permission from the federal government to get a job. American workers shouldn’t have to beg or plead to anybody to get permission to work. Being employed should be a private agreement between an employer and employee. Period. The government should get out of the way.

Second, carrying around government papers with biometric identification on it conjures up images of a more technologically savvy Oceania or East Germany. No thanks.

Third, the system will exclude millions of legal workers by accident and fail to catch the majority of undocumented immigrants. For instance, if E-Verify were instituted nation-wide 3.6 million Americans would be denied employment each year and have to visit the Social Security Administration to correct their records. The employer either fires them or delays training. Will a biometric ID card make this system better? How does that help American workers?

Fourth, it will cost businesses up to $800 to buy a scanner. Or as Senator Chuck Schumer says, employers can just go down to the DMV. Senator Schumer doesn’t know squat about running a business. The last thing an employer wants to do is spend time at the DMV when he could be spending it improving his business. And all this during an economic slump!

Fifth, it would treat every American like a criminal by requiring them to enter their most intimate and personal data into a government database. One of the benefits of not having committed any crimes is that my information is not in a government record office. I’d like to keep it that way.

I already have one though the Army, so I guess a civilian version isn't going to phase me.

On the other hand, I volunteered to give all that information to Big-Bro. I wasn't drafted. The biometric ID is a proverbial bar-code tattooed on the back of your scull so Big-Bro can keep track of you. While this is not only acceptable, but preferable for managing Soldiers, imo it has no place in the free civilian society.
 
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I'm totally against a national ID. It's already a pain in the butt to renew a driver's license. For that, you need a birth certificate and some other ID that is not your driver's license. That can make it extremely difficult for some people to get their license renewed.
 
Do you support an National ID?


I say no, I think this is just a an excuse to nationalize IDs with the hollow promises of enforcement. I do not want the government having my biometric data, it is not none of their business


FOXNews.com - 5 Reasons Why America Should Steer Clear of a National ID Card

A national ID hurts American workers while pretending to help them.

First, every worker would have to ask permission from the federal government to get a job. American workers shouldn’t have to beg or plead to anybody to get permission to work. Being employed should be a private agreement between an employer and employee. Period. The government should get out of the way.

Second, carrying around government papers with biometric identification on it conjures up images of a more technologically savvy Oceania or East Germany. No thanks.

Third, the system will exclude millions of legal workers by accident and fail to catch the majority of undocumented immigrants. For instance, if E-Verify were instituted nation-wide 3.6 million Americans would be denied employment each year and have to visit the Social Security Administration to correct their records. The employer either fires them or delays training. Will a biometric ID card make this system better? How does that help American workers?

Fourth, it will cost businesses up to $800 to buy a scanner. Or as Senator Chuck Schumer says, employers can just go down to the DMV. Senator Schumer doesn’t know squat about running a business. The last thing an employer wants to do is spend time at the DMV when he could be spending it improving his business. And all this during an economic slump!

Fifth, it would treat every American like a criminal by requiring them to enter their most intimate and personal data into a government database. One of the benefits of not having committed any crimes is that my information is not in a government record office. I’d like to keep it that way.

We are already identified by a national ID card - or rather, a national ID number.

It's a social security card/number.

As far as having something else that gives us less and less privacy, I vote no. I don't want nor do I need, the government involved in my personal life any more than it already is.

I haven't done anything "wrong" nor do I have anything to hide. I just don't feel it's the government's business what I do in my private life as long as I'm a law abiding citizen.
 
I like my Swiss national ID card, it allows me to travel all over Europe and parts of North Africa without having to carry a passport around. There's no biometric data on it, tho.
 
Answer to poll: No

Where besides US passports does the Federal Government have authority to issue ID cards?

The Real ID Act. Which I think they had to postpone implementing because they pissed off too many States at first. But it's not really dead, not yet.
 
I can see some benefits, but I still don't like that much (or any) information being available to anyone who accesses the database.

But on another note, many people have nearly as much information available somewhere on the Internetz, if someone takes the time or has the capability to gather it.
 
Do you support an National ID?


I say no, I think this is just a an excuse to nationalize IDs with the hollow promises of enforcement. I do not want the government having my biometric data, it is not none of their business


FOXNews.com - 5 Reasons Why America Should Steer Clear of a National ID Card

A national ID hurts American workers while pretending to help them.

First, every worker would have to ask permission from the federal government to get a job. American workers shouldn’t have to beg or plead to anybody to get permission to work. Being employed should be a private agreement between an employer and employee. Period. The government should get out of the way.

Second, carrying around government papers with biometric identification on it conjures up images of a more technologically savvy Oceania or East Germany. No thanks.

Third, the system will exclude millions of legal workers by accident and fail to catch the majority of undocumented immigrants. For instance, if E-Verify were instituted nation-wide 3.6 million Americans would be denied employment each year and have to visit the Social Security Administration to correct their records. The employer either fires them or delays training. Will a biometric ID card make this system better? How does that help American workers?

Fourth, it will cost businesses up to $800 to buy a scanner. Or as Senator Chuck Schumer says, employers can just go down to the DMV. Senator Schumer doesn’t know squat about running a business. The last thing an employer wants to do is spend time at the DMV when he could be spending it improving his business. And all this during an economic slump!

Fifth, it would treat every American like a criminal by requiring them to enter their most intimate and personal data into a government database. One of the benefits of not having committed any crimes is that my information is not in a government record office. I’d like to keep it that way.

Holy hysteria! Nothing like exaggerating the real problems.

I tend to be against it as unnecessary, but doubt the hysterical fears about it are real issues.
 
First, every worker would have to ask permission from the federal government to get a job. American workers shouldn’t have to beg or plead to anybody to get permission to work.

This is already the case. Can't get a legitimate job without two forms of ID. If anything, this move will help American workers by making it that much more difficult for illegal aliens to take their jobs.

Second, carrying around government papers with biometric identification on it conjures up images of a more technologically savvy Oceania or East Germany. No thanks.

I've read the same books you have. It's a long stretch from carrying a government ID to "Ihre papieren bitte" and government roadblocks.

Fourth, it will cost businesses up to $800 to buy a scanner. Or as Senator Chuck Schumer says, employers can just go down to the DMV.

Small price to pay for the ability to track criminals and foreigners attempting to work illegally.

Fifth, it would treat every American like a criminal by requiring them to enter their most intimate and personal data into a government database. One of the benefits of not having committed any crimes is that my information is not in a government record office. I’d like to keep it that way.

What data? Can't think of anything intimate or personal I've ever had to disclose on any government form-- with the wholly justified exception of when I have applied for government benefits.
 
This is already the case. Can't get a legitimate job without two forms of ID. If anything, this move will help American workers by making it that much more difficult for illegal aliens to take their jobs.

The jobs they tend to take aren't the one's looking at 2 forms of ID.

I've read the same books you have. It's a long stretch from carrying a government ID to "Ihre papieren bitte" and government roadblocks.

Is it? Why not just tack it on to all the DUI check points and random searches they do there? Seems like it's actually not very far away in the least. And then how long till there is a law against not having your ID when a cop asks you to identify yourself? It's not as far away as some would like to think it is.

Small price to pay for the ability to track criminals and foreigners attempting to work illegally.

I'll take those over an abusive government which feels the need to monitor its citizens and require they be able to ID themselves at their leisure any day of the week.
 
It will happen anyway.There are millions of morons who will give up their privacy for "safety".
 
This is already the case. Can't get a legitimate job without two forms of ID. If anything, this move will help American workers by making it that much more difficult for illegal aliens to take their jobs.

How would this stop those who already break the law in the first place by hiring illegals?
 
I like my Swiss national ID card, it allows me to travel all over Europe and parts of North Africa without having to carry a passport around. There's no biometric data on it, tho.

Don't take this the wrong way but your country is the size of one of our states.
It's more or less the equivalent to a state ID.
 
Do you support an National ID?


I say no, I think this is just a an excuse to nationalize IDs with the hollow promises of enforcement. I do not want the government having my biometric data, it is not none of their business


FOXNews.com - 5 Reasons Why America Should Steer Clear of a National ID Card

A national ID hurts American workers while pretending to help them.

First, every worker would have to ask permission from the federal government to get a job. American workers shouldn’t have to beg or plead to anybody to get permission to work. Being employed should be a private agreement between an employer and employee. Period. The government should get out of the way.

Second, carrying around government papers with biometric identification on it conjures up images of a more technologically savvy Oceania or East Germany. No thanks.

Third, the system will exclude millions of legal workers by accident and fail to catch the majority of undocumented immigrants. For instance, if E-Verify were instituted nation-wide 3.6 million Americans would be denied employment each year and have to visit the Social Security Administration to correct their records. The employer either fires them or delays training. Will a biometric ID card make this system better? How does that help American workers?

Fourth, it will cost businesses up to $800 to buy a scanner. Or as Senator Chuck Schumer says, employers can just go down to the DMV. Senator Schumer doesn’t know squat about running a business. The last thing an employer wants to do is spend time at the DMV when he could be spending it improving his business. And all this during an economic slump!

Fifth, it would treat every American like a criminal by requiring them to enter their most intimate and personal data into a government database. One of the benefits of not having committed any crimes is that my information is not in a government record office. I’d like to keep it that way.

No, it serves no purpose and is just another colossal waste of money.
 
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