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Thread: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post


    These are homes around $400,000 in my hometown.Which is considered upper middleclass

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    These are some cheap homes around my hometown

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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    These are homes around $400,000 in my hometown.Which is considered upper middleclass

    Homes.com - Real Estate and Homes For Sale.



    These are some cheap homes around my hometown

    Homes.com - Real Estate and Homes For Sale.



    12017 s Sandusky Avenue, Tulsa OK 74137 | Homes.com


    Damn.... I'd buy that as a vacation home.
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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Isn't that what all charities do is selectively redistribute .I can't walk into a soup kitchen with a suit and tie with wallet full of credit cards and cash and expect the volunteers to feed me for free, nor can I go to a john 3:16 and expect them to give me a box of food or any other charity that helps people. Its not about politics or partisanship.



    Unless you are in NewYork or commiefornia $400,000 will get you a very nice house in most parts of the country.




    Even with tax payer funded programs there are qualifications that must be met, it has nothing to do with politics and or partisanship.
    Exactly. People don't give to the Red Cross as an insurance policy for themselves in case of their own personal calamity. That's what insurance is for. I have insurance on my house in case of a fire. These people did have insurance, the paper stated that. The house was actually fairly new, they said the fire was caused by a short in a TV.

    In the case of floods, then most people don't have flood insurance. We had flooding last year and the Red Cross did help people, as well as FEMA. But in this case, these people were financially prepared in case of a fire, and I'm sure they also have credit cards to take care of immediate expenses. Even Goodwill takes credit cards these days.

    The lady at the Red Cross said that they got $500 for immediate expenses. Ridiculous!

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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I wouldn't call a $400,000 home a well-off home.

    They lost everything and are in need.

    I think it is awesome that the Red Cross was there to help them.

    It's entirely appropriate.
    i'd call it a well off home.

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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    This home wasn't a $400,000 home. Home prices include the home and the land. In this case, the dwelling itself was worth a little under $400,000. The land is probably worth $300,000-400,000. The home was what we call McMansions in these parts. They are rural urbanites with snowmobiles and boats.

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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    This home wasn't a $400,000 home. Home prices include the home and the land. In this case, the dwelling itself was worth a little under $400,000. The land is probably worth $300,000-400,000. The home was what we call McMansions in these parts. They are rural urbanites with snowmobiles and boats.



    whats the general area here?
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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    whats the general area here?
    I posted the median home price for the county, which is under $300,000.

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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    So a few things... regionally, the price doesn't denote McMansion. I used to rent in Bernardsville NJ and 400,000 home on a small postage stamp lot worth another 300,000 would be a lower middle class home.

    I'm just really surprised how people wouldn't mind discrimination by a group based on the estimated cost of their homes - or based on their income. A standard home for 200,000 in Roanoke VA is 1.7 million in the NY suburbs - especially in parts of NJ, my home state. I'm not for discrimination at any level for anyone. If there's a disaster, people need help no matter what.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I posted the median home price for the county, which is under $300,000.



    which county?
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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So a few things... regionally, the price doesn't denote McMansion. I used to rent in Bernardsville NJ and 400,000 home on a small postage stamp lot worth another 300,000 would be a lower middle class home.

    I'm just really surprised how people wouldn't mind discrimination by a group based on the estimated cost of their homes - or based on their income. A standard home for 200,000 in Roanoke VA is 1.7 million in the NY suburbs - especially in parts of NJ, my home state. I'm not for discrimination at any level for anyone. If there's a disaster, people need help no matter what.



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