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Thread: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I stopped in our local Red Cross chapter the other day to give another donation for Haiti, since they have such ongoing dire needs. Was talking to the girl, asking about their organization, and what sort of things the local chapter does in the community.

    She proudly cited a recent fire where they provided emergency funds so the people could buy new clothes. I was familiar with the fire, this is a very small community. They listed in the paper that the dwelling was worth $400,000. The house was on expensive acreage.

    The people, in fact, are well to do and they no doubt are well insured. Their home is worth more than most people's including mine. Why in the hell should Red Cross help people like that?

    What do you think? Who should Red Cross help financially after a fire?
    sure, if the need is verified. think about it, if a fire happened on a friday night and burned everything, the people wouldn't have access to banks or credit cards.

    they would need emergency funds. if they have means, no reason not to ask them to repay once they have access to funds.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    The dwelling itself was worth $400,000, and the acreage it's on is probably worth another $400,000.



    This sounds made up.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    On the other hand do you say emergency support should only goes to those who have nothing which may be due to their own irresponsibility and not to perhaps those who have worked hard their whole lives?

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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This sounds made up.
    It is not made up. The paper listed the estimated damage to the dwelling, which was just under $400,000. The house was a total lose. It was a very nice house. The house sits on expensive acreage of forested ranchero property, with irrigation rights.

    Oh, lookie, I found the article online

    Capt. John Doe of Undisclosed County Fire District 5 said the damage estimate includes $370,000 for the home and $230,000 for its contents.

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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    if you don't like who the red cross assists, don't donate to them.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    if you don't like who the red cross assists, don't donate to them.



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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    if you don't like who the red cross assists, don't donate to them.
    My point is that I didn't even know that they financially assisted well off people. I thought they helped down and out people, battered women, flood victims, stuff like that. Now that I found out otherwise, I'm bringing it up for discussion.

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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    While I understand where you're coming from, I still see it as selective redistribution.
    Isn't that what all charities do is selectively redistribute .I can't walk into a soup kitchen with a suit and tie with wallet full of credit cards and cash and expect the volunteers to feed me for free, nor can I go to a john 3:16 and expect them to give me a box of food or any other charity that helps people. Its not about politics or partisanship.


    I won't condone some sort of arbitrary selection process based on the value of what went down. There's no way to know that if this loss would just be a drop in the bucket for them, or if it would completely toss them out on the street.
    Unless you are in NewYork or commiefornia $400,000 will get you a very nice house in most parts of the country.


    If it's a tax-funded non-profit government organization, you get help if you need help.
    Even with tax payer funded programs there are qualifications that must be met, it has nothing to do with politics and or partisanship.
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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    My point is that I didn't even know that they financially assisted well off people. I thought they helped down and out people, battered women, flood victims, stuff like that. Now that I found out otherwise, I'm bringing it up for discussion.
    i know, i wasn't responding to you with that post. i was responding to crosscheck.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Should Local Red Cross help people whose McMansions burn down?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    My point is that I didn't even know that they financially assisted well off people. I thought they helped down and out people, battered women, flood victims, stuff like that. Now that I found out otherwise, I'm bringing it up for discussion.
    I wouldn't call a $400,000 home a well-off home.

    They lost everything and are in need.

    I think it is awesome that the Red Cross was there to help them.

    It's entirely appropriate.

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