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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFungus420 View Post
    Yes they have.

    But only THC. And only when it has been synthetically manufactured, put in a sesame oil suspension and put in a pill. It's called "Marinol" (or Dronabinol).

    But not naturally occurring THC.

    So, either the artificial production process or the sesame oil is what gives THC it's medicinal properties.
    so, if they have it in a pill, why does marijuana need to be legal?
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    You should seriously consider banging a gong. You have been using that same lame argument on all of these pot threads. Being anti pot is a cottage industry.
    This post is precisely why the pro-legalization side has a long way to go in order to win.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFungus420 View Post
    I'm not familiar with any. Could you link for me, please?
    The studies I have read are copyrighted and cannot be reprinted. I posted excerpts once. I'll go dig them up.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    I dip Grizzly Green--

    that is addiction. Pot is nothin like that. If I want to work on a fun project, or listen to music, Pot makes it more enjoyable. and that is all it is. there is not a "need" to do it at all. I quit for a solid year once, with no need to do it. The first time I tried Pot, my response was, "and this will get me life in prison?? some body is messed up for sure" >>

    So far, I've been able to handle my pain, but it's good to know my doctor can legally prescribe pot if it gets to be too much.

    Thanks, Skateguy, for saying it makes life more enjoyable, not just eases pain, apathy sometimes makes it even worse.

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    so, if they have it in a pill, why does marijuana need to be legal?
    Pot was been legal for thousands of years, in many cultures, but our "Free" society says "No son, put that down, it's bad for ya."---- They know not of which they speak.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

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    Thanks, Skateguy, for saying it makes life more enjoyable, not just eases pain, apathy sometimes makes it even worse.

    ricksfolly

    Pot is not a crutch, and it's not a place to hide. If anything, it is like looking at the World through a microscope. I don't blame people for fearing their own minds. the thought of expanding it is probably more than they can bear.>>

    It must give you a feeling of invincibility to be so sure of yourself... OTOH it could be just another defence mechanism to mask the real you, a harmless pussy cat.

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    so, if they have it in a pill, why does marijuana need to be legal?
    Marinol's method of delivery is counter-intuitive to the symptoms it's prescribed to alleviate. People suffering from nausea due to chemotherapy typically have a hard time keeping pills down.

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    so, if they have it in a pill, why does marijuana need to be legal?
    Here is a recycled post of mine from another thread where I touch on some reasons why Marinol and other synthetic cannabinoid pills are not ideal:

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Got to love a world where a synthetic version of a substance replaces one that is easily and readily attained naturally. But then again a drug company could not really profit off from natural THC, or related cannabinoids which would be able to be purified and processed to pharmaceutical standard with ease, and at a fraction of the cost.

    I love when Marinol gets touted as the universal answer to medical marijuana, when there are over 60 cannabinoids that have been isolated from cannabis. THC is but one of a whole class of substances in the understudied cannabinoid family.

    Little is known about which cannabinoids have which specific medical benefits, so they release a synthetic version THC as a generic panacea to say "see we are not overlooking its medical value", while overlooking a whole myriad of potential uses for the entire class substances, many of which are non intoxicating.

    Being pure THC (even synthetic) marinol is good at one thing, getting the user very high; unfortunately most users report that cannabis itself is much better at alleviating their nausea, and promoting appetite without such a complete and overwhelming stoned feeling from pure THC.

    So, no Marinol is not the cure all for the problem as it is being touted, rather exploring what it is specifically in the whole class of cannabinoid drugs, and which ones specifically have which benefits is. Doing this could very well result in finding a much better solution (processed from natural cannabinoids working in tandem) that can be tailored to have the desired results, while minimizing on the intoxication effects that result from THC alone.

    Medical marijuana patients often tailor the strain of cannabis they use to maximize the desired combination of cannabinoids. Different strains and different ratios of THC to other cannabinoids produce different effects, and even different intoxications, some more beneficial than others for a specific user or problem, and this does not necessarily equate to maximizing THC content and the associated intoxication.

    Marinol -clocking in at 100% THC (synthetic)-, most certainly does maximize THC content, and as such is not what the doctor ordered for many medical marijuana recipients, so no, Marinol is not a viable alternative for many.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    You need to have a little more tolerance for peoples vices.
    He tells you he is in favor of legalization and you then respond with this?

    You are not helping any by ostracizing and attacking those who are sympathetic to your cause you know. Zyphlin's points are valid, and if anything you should take them as constructive criticism. Instead you double down at the irrational zealous mode.. really.. just do yourself -and others- a favor and stop.
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