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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    The physical addiction to marijuana is tied to opiates, but not NEARLY as strong.
    I know that you know that you know more than I do about the subject. I was addictted to pain pills though and one day took a couple of tokes fell asleep. Woke up the next day minus the cravings for the pain pills.

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    My mother was so sick before she died ten years ago of leukemia . She couldn't really communicate and we couldn't get her to eat. We didn't really know how to deal with grave illness in our family.

    I couldn't believe my dad would agree to trying marijuana because he's the most far right anti-drug person there is. I was scared to even bring it up. But he didn't even think about it and said that we should get some. So one of my brothers got some and we breathed it into Mom. I don't know if it helped or not. It did not help very much.

    We did what anybody might do when a family member is in trouble and I don't think anybody should have told us we couldn't.

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Potential Merits of Cannabinoids for Medical Uses

    It appears that the FDA has not seen enough evidence to approve it.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Potential Merits of Cannabinoids for Medical Uses

    It appears that the FDA has not seen enough evidence to approve it.
    From your link:
    Under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) Congress listed marijuana in Schedule I. Schedule I substances have a very high potential for abuse, no accepted medical use in the United States, and lack accepted safety data for use under medical supervision.
    Why have we made it a Schedule 1 drug? It is ****ing ridiculous that is is Schedule 1.

    The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and FDA support the medical research community who intend to study marijuana in scientifically valid investigations and well-controlled clinical trials, in-line with the FDA’s drug approval process. HHS and FDA recognize the need for objective evaluations of the potential merits of cannabinoids for medical uses. If the scientific community discovers a positive benefit, HHS also recognizes the need to stimulate development of alternative, safer dosage forms. In February 1997, an NIH-sponsored workshop analyzed available scientific information and concluded that “in order to evaluate various hypotheses concerning the potential utility of marijuana in various therapeutic areas, more and better studies would be needed.
    In March 1999, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) issued a detailed report that supports the absolute need for evidence-based research into the effects of marijuana and cannabinoid components of marijuana, for patients with specific disease conditions. The IOM report also emphasized that smoked marijuana is a crude drug delivery system that exposes patients to a significant number of harmful substances and that “if there is any future of marijuana as a medicine, it lies in its isolated components, the cannabinoids and their synthetic derivatives.” As such, the IOM recommended that clinical trials should be conducted with the goal of developing safe delivery systems.
    In May 1999, HHS released “Guidance on Procedures for the Provision of Marijuana for Medical Research,” a document intended to provide the medical research community who intend to study marijuana in scientifically valid investigations and well-controlled clinical trials on HHS procedures for providing research-grade marijuana to sponsors. The HHS guidance is intended to facilitate the research needed to evaluate pending public health questions regarding marijuana by making research-grade marijuana available for well-designed studies on a cost-reimbursable basis. The focus of this HHS program is the support of quality research for the development of clinically meaningful data regarding marijuana. An appropriate scientific study of a drug requires, among other things, that the drug used in the research must have a consistent and predictable potency, must be free of contamination, and must be available in sufficient amounts to support the needs of the study. NIDA allocates resources to cultivate a grade of marijuana that is suitable for research purposes. The HHS Guidance outlines the procedures for obtaining research-grade marijuana including: 1) the researcher must make an inquiry to NIDA to determine the availability and costs of marijuana, and NIDA has to determine that marijuana is available to support the study; 2) researchers who propose to conduct investigations in humans must proceed through the FDA process for filing an IND application: and 3) all researchers must obtain from DEA registration to conduct research using a Schedule I controlled substance.
    FDA regulates smoked marijuana, a botanical product, when it is being investigated for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment or prevention of disease in man or other animals, as a drug, under the FD&C Act. Botanicals include herbal products made from leaves, as well as products made from roots, stems, seeds, pollen or any other part of a plant. Botanical products pose some issues that are unique to this class of product, including the problem of lot-to-lot consistency. These unpurified products, which may be either from a single plant source or from a combination of different plant substances, often exert their reported effects through mechanisms that are either unknown or undefined. For these reasons, the exact chemical nature of these products may not be known. In addition, issues of strength, potency, shelf life, dosing and toxicity monitoring need to be addressed. If a product varies greatly, as can occur with botanicals, it is critical to obtain lot-to-lot product consistency. Without this it is difficult to determine if the product is causing the change in a patient's condition, or the change is related to some other factor. Because of the problems associated with obtaining lot-to-lot consistency with botanical marijuana, it is not surprising that IOM recommended that clinical trials should be conducted with the goal of developing safe delivery systems.
    HHS performed a scientific and medical evaluation of marijuana in 2001 and concluded with a recommendation to DEA that marijuana should remain in Schedule I pursuant to section 201(b) of the CSA. HHS’s scientific and medical evaluation and scheduling recommendation can be found at Volume 66, Federal Register page 20038 (April 18, 2001). After receiving an HHS evaluation and recommendation, DEA is responsible for scheduling substances and as noted previously, has primary responsibility for the regulation and distribution of Schedule I substances.
    I can kind of understand why they would want to isolate the active component and come up with an alternative delivery mechanism. It kind of pains me that they may separate the part the gets you high from the part that heals...unless they are one and the same.

    Why they would re-evaluate and classify as a schedule 1 drug again is beyond me. Damn war on drugs.

    CONCLUSION
    Having access to a drug or medical treatment, without knowing how to use it or even if it is effective, does not benefit anyone. Simply having access, without having safety, efficacy, and adequate use information does not help patients. FDA has and will continue to use its IND and other expanded access programs to provide patients freedom to choose investigational medical treatments while reasonably ensuring safety, informed choice, and systematic data collection that allows us to review drug applications.
    FDA will continue to be receptive to sound, scientifically based research into the medicinal uses of botanical marijuana and other cannabinoids. FDA will continue to facilitate the work of manufacturers interested in bringing to the market safe and effective products.
    So basically as long as they have their hands in defining what is safe or not they are ok with it. I hate the FDA, the DEA, the HHC, and any other agencies involved in this. What happened to personal freedom?

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    i think it should be illegal from the simple view that do we need another drug that can put you in an altered state of conciousness, theres enough road accidents from alcohol.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    i think it should be illegal from the simple view that do we need another drug that can put you in an altered state of conciousness, theres enough road accidents from alcohol.
    And it appears that 1.3 out of every 10 people here agree with you.

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    i think it should be illegal from the simple view that do we need another drug that can put you in an altered state of conciousness, theres enough road accidents from alcohol.
    Just because a substance puts you in an altered state of consciousness does not mean it should be illegal. It merely has to be used responsibly or serious consequences will ensue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    And it appears that 1.3 out of every 10 people here agree with you.
    well i agree with me, and thats all that matters
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Jessie Ventura said it best on Larry King. I don't remember his exact words but it went something like this. "I come up through the 60's and 70's. The age of the rock and roll concerts. The Beatles, Stones. Pot, to my generation, is as natural as beer at a baseball game. I have smoked marijuana and I have drank beer. Marijuana didn't do nearly as much damage."
    Isn't Jessie Ventura a 9-11 truffer? So doesn't that hurt his argument that it didn't do nearly as much damage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Isn't Jessie Ventura a 9-11 truffer? So doesn't that hurt his argument that it didn't do nearly as much damage?
    Like anybody can argue with Jesse "The Body" Ventura.

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