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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So is alcohol, even more so than marijuana, but it is ingrained in our culture. Are we going to have a second prohibition with that? Of course not, but there IS prohibition happening right now with weed, and it has been a dismal failure. Just legalize it, and allow adults to be responsible with it. If they aren't, THAT is when they should be penalized.

    As George Carlin once said, the main difference between alcohol and marijuana is that, with marijuana, you don't puke on your shoes.
    I am pro-legalization, but from a specific position. And there is a big difference between alcohol and marijuana. Alcohol, as you said is ingrained in our culture, and has been for centuries. Marjiuana is not. The prohibition of alcohol was an absolute failure, but not because of it's addictive quality. It was a failure because alcohol was used in a wide-spread way; marijuana was not, and taking this away was far more difficult for society to manage than taking away marijuana. There is a HUGE difference between these two prohibitions.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Well, going on what I have read and observed on television, medicinal marijuana, when it's all said and done, isn't any cheaper than we can get it on the the streets.

    And the whup-ass pot floating around out there these days and the abundance of it, coupled with the fact that most of today's cops have a whole new attitude about the private, responsible user, I could care less if they legalize it or not.

    I like things just the way they are here in my blue-neck-of-the-woods.

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Jessie Ventura said it best on Larry King. I don't remember his exact words but it went something like this. "I come up through the 60's and 70's. The age of the rock and roll concerts. The Beatles, Stones. Pot, to my generation, is as natural as beer at a baseball game. I have smoked marijuana and I have drank beer. Marijuana didn't do nearly as much damage."

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That may be true, but this argument does nothing for the legalization side. It will always hit the addiction roadblock. And those that deny it is addictive do much more damage. Best argument for legalization is a twofold approach. Argue the complete failure of the war on drugs, and then expand it to shifting all that money to substance abuse treatment rather than incarceration. Presenting the merits of marijuana use is not going to get anyone who doesn't use to care.
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    while I am in agreement, the argument in bold in this quote falters when singling out marijuana for legalization, for it to be anymore than marginally effective it must encompass all substances, and this is a pill that will choke many a fence sitter on the issue. People instantly reject reason and put up barricades and hide behind an obstinate wall of rejection the instant there is even an allusion to cocaine, or heroine, or -gasp- meth being legalized so that we can treat drug problems instead of exacerbating them.

    Legalized marijuana alone would be a great test subject to show that it is not the end of the world to take control of drugs out of the hands of criminals, and it will have benefits. Unfortunately there will still be a whole host of problems not adequately addressed unless all drugs are considered, the argument for legalization cannot even come close to its full potential by singling out marijuana - in fact doing so undermines the most powerful arguments for legalization (drugs are too dangerous to be left uncontrolled - or even more incredulous - too dangerous to have a policy that hands that control over to criminals).

    For the war on drugs to end it is necessary to make bedfellows with many who are in it solely to get marijuana legalized - acceptance of ending prohibition across the board will not occur without marijuana paving the way. It would be nice if many in the "legalize marijuana so I can get high" crowd would try thinking their arguments through while not high once in a while. Much like the War on Drugs, they do more harm than good - and that brings us back around to tonight's word, and what the argument is all about:

    Harm reduction
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Maybe because of the damage it does to brain cells you forget that you are addicted.
    No, I smoked cigarettes for over 20 years.

    I know what addiction is like.

    Cannabis is no more addictive than any other thing that people find pleasurable.

    Yes, there are people who may become psychologically addicted, but it is not physically addictive.

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    Sorry, I was unclear. It was supposed to be about your comment about not buying medical marijuana.

    But, looking back, I think I owe you a bit of an apology. I thought that you were saying that you didn't accept that cannabis has medicinal value.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    then why are potheads the ones mostly pushing for so called medicinal marijuana, why can I pick up a high times magazine and somewhere in that magazine they are pushing it? I seriously doubt jr602az and other potheads gives a **** about medicinal marijuana other than the fact it can be used as a back door to get prescription marijuana for recreational users and to get their foot in the door for recreational marijuana. Personally I think you people should be honest about your motives.
    I am. I am proponent of legalization.

    I think that the medical issue should be decided by medical professionals, not law enforcement personnel, bureaucrats or politicians.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Free clue: Yes it is for some.
    Only in the sense that some people can become psychologically addicted to just about anything.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I know that to be true as well. I have found tobacco to be the worst addiction of them all. A cigarette may not cause you to wreck your car but they are the hardest habit to break I have ever known personally.
    You've got that right.

    I haven't had a cigarette since Sept '08. I still get the urge for one.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFungus420 View Post
    Only in the sense that some people can become psychologically addicted to just about anything.
    No, there is a physical addiction, too. Recent studies have shown this.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, there is a physical addiction, too. Recent studies have shown this.
    Maybe, but it certainly is not like opiates.

    As a matter of fact I give pot credit for getting me off pain pills after a severe motorcycle wreck.

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Maybe, but it certainly is not like opiates.

    As a matter of fact I give pot credit for getting me off pain pills after a severe motorcycle wreck.
    The physical addiction to marijuana is tied to opiates, but not NEARLY as strong.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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