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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    This is really ridiculous.

    Marijuana can suppress the urge to vomit-which I see nobody is disputing.

    vomiting is a necessary outlet for the body to purge itself from alcohol poisoning.

    Therefore marijuana can interfere with the bodies ability to purge itself of excess alcohol by suppressing the urge to vomit.

    Really this is not rocket science here.. A person has alcohol poisoning and the body needs to vomit to purge itself of toxins.. yet there is something interfering with this mechanism allowing more toxins to enter an already poisoned body. What is the issue with this?

    sometimes controlling -to copy previous emphasis in this silly semantic game- the urge to vomit is very very bad.
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    Good. So I'm glad that we agree.




    And your position has been scientifically been debunked. Since it has been scientifically proven that marijuana CAN prevent vomiting, it certainly CAN prevent vomiting when excessively drinking alcohol. I'm sorry that you do not see the connection, but I understand how you wouldn't. It proves you wrong.
    Both of you are talking about a hypothesis. Do either of you understand the process to take a hypothesis to theory/fact?

    What you are doing is constructing a syllogism. Now you have to test it. Before you've tested it, you cannot claim it is a fact about the effects of combining the two.

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Both of you are talking about a hypothesis. Do either of you understand the process to take a hypothesis to theory/fact?

    What you are doing is constructing a syllogism. Now you have to test it. Before you've tested it, you cannot claim it is a fact about the effects of combining the two.
    No, what both of us are talking about is using science and logic in the form of the Transitive Property of Equality. We know that vomiting can occur from excessive alcohol use. And we know that marijuana supresses the vomiting center of the brain. Therefore, logically, through the transitive property of equality, we know that marijuana can prevent vomiting when excessive alcohol has been consumed. Simple logic.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Marijuana is helpful to people who have no appetite. It's called the "screaming munchies".

    I am bewildered that it is classified as a schedule one drug (no redeeming medical purpose).

    This is the biggest fallacy coming from the anti marijuana crowd.

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, what both of us are talking about is using science and logic in the form of the Transitive Property of Equality. We know that vomiting can occur from excessive alcohol use. And we know that marijuana supresses the vomiting center of the brain. Therefore, logically, through the transitive property of equality, we know that marijuana can prevent vomiting when excessive alcohol has been consumed. Simple logic.
    What you're saying makes perfect sense but marduc is right, in a real situation there could be hundreds of other variables that don't fit neatly into that equation, so it's just a hypothesis until it's actually been tested for and observed. My personal experience (mine as well as people I know) is that marijuana use while already very drunk can actually cause nausea and vomiting that wouldn't have happened otherwise. The two euphorias don't tend to play nicely together.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    What you're saying makes perfect sense but marduc is right, in a real situation there could be hundreds of other variables that don't fit neatly into that equation, so it's just a hypothesis until it's actually been tested for and observed. My personal experience (mine as well as people I know) is that marijuana use while already very drunk can actually cause nausea and vomiting that wouldn't have happened otherwise. The two euphorias don't tend to play nicely together.
    Actually I am not arguing against his position, I am supporting it. And, yes, I have also experienced the room spinning when combining both substances and agree that at times they do not play nice together and actually cause nausea. This does not discount other times when I felt nauseous from alcohol alone and smoked a bit of pot to suppress this and then laid down and went to sleep. sometimes it would alleviate the situation, sometimes it wouldn't, which one was the case was rather unpredictable, I would actually be rather surprised to hear that you have never noticed this.

    Is the repression of the vomiting urge an absolute, and is going to happen every time? No, however, there are times when it can and does happen, and there are times and instances when that has a potential to be dangerous.

    I do not get why we get so hung up arguing such silly moot points.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, what both of us are talking about is using science and logic in the form of the Transitive Property of Equality. We know that vomiting can occur from excessive alcohol use. And we know that marijuana supresses the vomiting center of the brain. Therefore, logically, through the transitive property of equality, we know that marijuana can prevent vomiting when excessive alcohol has been consumed. Simple logic.
    You can't simply deduce this and claim it fact. It was your claim that if your body needed to expel toxic levels of alcohol, being under the intoxication of marijuana would prevent the vomiting and you could die.

    You have no evidence of this. You have a logical argument that deduces this but you have yet to test it. This is called a hypothesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Marijuana is helpful to people who have no appetite. It's called the "screaming munchies".

    I am bewildered that it is classified as a schedule one drug (no redeeming medical purpose).

    This is the biggest fallacy coming from the anti marijuana crowd.
    Indeed. Now consider who might benefit from making it illegal not to mention a schedule one drug.

    Special Interests (SI) want it to be a schedule one drug so that research is severely inhibited and controlled by the government (which we already know is controlled by SI). There is only one government approved source for research samples and the process to become authorized is too ridiculous.

    So why would SI want prevent research? Well, there's the:
    Alcohol industry which doesn't want a competitor with a better, safer product
    there's the pharma industry which doesn't want competition from something you could grow yourself and relieve or lessen various ailments that you might otherwise pay for
    There's the DEA and prison systems which spend tax dollars by the billions.
    But the biggest reason why marijuana is still illegal...(drum roll)

    HEMP!

    Miracle Marijuana-hempuses2-jpg

    Just look at all the industries that would loose money if Hemp were legal to grow.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Indeed. Now consider who might benefit from making it illegal not to mention a schedule one drug.

    Special Interests (SI) want it to be a schedule one drug so that research is severely inhibited and controlled by the government (which we already know is controlled by SI). There is only one government approved source for research samples and the process to become authorized is too ridiculous.

    So why would SI want prevent research? Well, there's the:
    Alcohol industry which doesn't want a competitor with a better, safer product
    there's the pharma industry which doesn't want competition from something you could grow yourself and relieve or lessen various ailments that you might otherwise pay for
    There's the DEA and prison systems which spend tax dollars by the billions.
    But the biggest reason why marijuana is still illegal...(drum roll)

    HEMP!

    Miracle Marijuana-hempuses2-jpg

    Just look at all the industries that would loose money if Hemp were legal to grow.
    It could also be used to make bio fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    It could also be used to make bio fuel.
    Yup, and it's listed in the chart.

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