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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I was anti-legalization for a LONG time. A poster here at DP changed my mind by making a completely logical and reasonable argument, of which I have expanded after a bit of research.
    Ok, I'll bite. What's your argument for legalization?

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Ok, I'll bite. What's your argument for legalization?
    My position is this. The War on Drugs is a failure. What we have found is that incarcerating folks for possession does not resolve the issue. When they are released, their drug use continues. A major part of this problem is that these folks, even if they want to get help for their substance abuse issues, cannot afford to get adequate care. This is, to some extent, a health care issue, whereas the insurance industry often marginalizes both substance abuse and mental health benefits. Let's throw alcohol into this, also, as the majority of major crimes are either surrounding some sort of substance or occur because of a substance or intoxication of a substance. Legalization presents us with solutions to many problems that the War on Drugs fails at. Firstly, incarceration for simple possession is ridiculous. Not all marijuana smokers are addicts or commit crimes... just like not all drinkers of alcohol are alcoholics or commit crimes. Further, if the government legalized marijuana use, they could tax the hell out of it. When you combine the monies from these taxes, plus the huge amount of money saved from eliminating the war on drugs, this money is then to be used for free substance abuse rehab for folks that ARE addicted. By doing so, not only do you eliminate a failed policy, and cease charges for something that tends to not created criminal behavior, but you provide a service for those folks that DO have a problem, assisting them to become more productive members of society and to NOT use their addiction to become involved in criminal behavior.

    All consequences ascribed to alcohol would apply... driving under the influence, underage intoxication, etc...

    I have not decided whether or not this should apply to "harder" drugs, though the free care for addiction, should.

    That's my basic position and reasoning. Instead of criminalizing the problem, treat the problem... when there is a problem.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    My position is this. The War on Drugs is a failure. What we have found is that incarcerating folks for possession does not resolve the issue. When they are released, their drug use continues. A major part of this problem is that these folks, even if they want to get help for their substance abuse issues, cannot afford to get adequate care. This is, to some extent, a health care issue, whereas the insurance industry often marginalizes both substance abuse and mental health benefits. Let's throw alcohol into this, also, as the majority of major crimes are either surrounding some sort of substance or occur because of a substance or intoxication of a substance. Legalization presents us with solutions to many problems that the War on Drugs fails at. Firstly, incarceration for simple possession is ridiculous. Not all marijuana smokers are addicts or commit crimes... just like not all drinkers of alcohol are alcoholics or commit crimes. Further, if the government legalized marijuana use, they could tax the hell out of it. When you combine the monies from these taxes, plus the huge amount of money saved from eliminating the war on drugs, this money is then to be used for free substance abuse rehab for folks that ARE addicted. By doing so, not only do you eliminate a failed policy, and cease charges for something that tends to not created criminal behavior, but you provide a service for those folks that DO have a problem, assisting them to become more productive members of society and to NOT use their addiction to become involved in criminal behavior.

    All consequences ascribed to alcohol would apply... driving under the influence, underage intoxication, etc...

    I have not decided whether or not this should apply to "harder" drugs, though the free care for addiction, should.

    That's my basic position and reasoning. Instead of criminalizing the problem, treat the problem... when there is a problem.
    That is extremely close to my opinion, I think. Drugs are not a criminal problem, they are a health problem. So let's stop criminalizing the industry, creating a criminal supply chain that commits additional crimes as organized crime. Let's legalize soft drugs and through proceeds pay for care. Let's decriminalize hard drugs.

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Your personal experiences are relevant... TO YOU. And that's it.
    That's a great tactic. Make the testimony of pot heads irrelevant and, poof, you win the debate. Awesome!

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    My former FIL had terminal cancer back in '98. I wish there would have been a way to get him something to help with the after effects of nausea and vomiting after he received chemo treatments via pic line. Like, marijuana.

    He instead received THC pills, which did virtually nothing and he most times would vomit those up. He lost weight, was weak and overall nauseated all week until his next round of chemo.

    To see someone you love in pain to the point that they starve themselves because their body is revolting against a chemical that is killing not only the bad cells, but the good ones as well ... is indescribable.

    Maybe if he'd had access marijuana he could have *at least* been held some food down, maybe he would not have been nauseous all the time - maybe not. But he never got the opportunity. He passed away February 22, 1999.

    It's not only "pot heads" that think medical marijuana would/could do some good. I get so angry when I read that only pot heads want to see marijuana decriminalized. Those people have no idea the motives why some of us would like to see this happen.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    The majority support the legalization of pot in this recent nationwide poll.

    http://www.visioncritical.com/wp-con...9_Drugs_US.pdf

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    That's good. Hopefully this trend continues until it reaches the point that a majority of likely voters approve of legalization

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    It's just that you posted this, so I just assumed you were against using personal experience as fact.
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    "Your experiences are irrelevant. You are one person and do not speak for everyone."---and Howdy there H-Town.-- Mexican weed was $50 an lb, and a match box was $5. Ah the good old days.
    Oh, I get it.

    You're smoking White Widow and didn't notice that I am Captain America NOT Captain Courtesy. (White Widow/Houston. I shoulda made the connection. )

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    PS.... Commercial grade mexican in 1975 was 100.00 per lb and 160-180 for a kilo. A "matchbox" of weed was 2-3 dollars and you had to go to "the other side of the tracks" to buy quantities that small. Me and my friends would give away matchboxes should the friend be out of weed. Fat four finger ounces (lids) were only 10.00 bucks. Heck, I spilled more than a matchbox of weed without ever bending over to pick it up. If you bought doobage for 50.00 a pound you gotta be at least 75 years old.

    Back on topic. Weed is addictive. I know. Any questions? Good. Case closed. Have a nice weekend class and remember. Monday. Class starts at 8:00 am. Bring pen and paper.
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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post


    Please watch this Amazing Video


    YouTube- MIRACLE MARIJUANA!
    Dude, you are NOT helping the legalization movement, at all. Please get an education.

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    Re: Miracle Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    doobage
    Another great slang term I used to use! Here's my list:

    pot
    weed
    herb
    grass
    eggs!

    In college it was all about buying and frying some eggs, man. A dozen was an ounce and 3 egg omelet was a quarter. Then we (me and my cousin) decided to splurge for a pound. Coulda called that a chicken farm!

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