View Poll Results: Do debates ever die?

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  • No. Debates aren't entirely logical, so winning and losing are subjective

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  • Yes. But I've never lost a debate

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  • Yes. And I have lost a debate.

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  • Yes. I have changed my position on a subject because of a debate.

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    Do debates ever die?

    One thing I am noticing more and more about this forum is that nothing is ever resolved. People argue about various subjects, usually both sides will declare victory and nothing gets accomplished.

    Am I alone in this?

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    Re: Do debates ever die?

    My opinions on certain topics have changed a lot since I first came here. I've obtained a lot of different perspectives.

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    Re: Do debates ever die?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    One thing I am noticing more and more about this forum is that nothing is ever resolved. People argue about various subjects, usually both sides will declare victory and nothing gets accomplished.

    Am I alone in this?
    Actually, I don't see both sides declaring victory any more. I see a lot of nothing getting accomplished. And these arguments will always go back and forth. Just as they have always gone on back and forth.

    But what counts is what the majority of the people believe at any one time and the needs of the people and the government at that time. And some people change their minds over time. I know my beliefs certainly have changed from when I was younger.

    So it's important that we have these debates. These debates allow all interests and groups to have a say in politics. They also help to develop some kind of solution to problems that are equitable to all involved. That way, power is shared instead of being relegated to one group at the expense of the opposing group.

    But, yeah, for the most part, I think that people are gonna do whatever they want for whatever reason they can rationalize no matter the politics decided. That's why I see government as less politics and more as a controlled anarchy.

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    Re: Do debates ever die?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    One thing I am noticing more and more about this forum is that nothing is ever resolved. People argue about various subjects, usually both sides will declare victory and nothing gets accomplished.

    Am I alone in this?
    Nope, I have the same feelings about it that you do. It seems most people won't think about changing their mind and assume they are already 100% correct 100% of the time. I think it's the pride part of human nature Typically when someone is losing a debate they deflect or make personal attacks, or worse yet just attack someone's position as being absurd. Debates are a good thing, but the mind is like a parachute, it's most useful when it's open.

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    Re: Do debates ever die?

    There is always room for learning for open minded people...however...a debate isnt determined by the players...its determined by the judges/viewers.

    Most of the issues that get kicked around here are age old battles. You cant HONESTLY EXPECT a few people on an internet blog to resolve questions that have plagued mankind since there was mankind can you?
    Last edited by VanceMack; 03-02-10 at 08:44 PM.

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    Re: Do debates ever die?

    Most of you have only been at this forum for less than a year. It's a little early to judge whether or not the debates will change your minds.

    I used to favor a Federal ban on abortion. Now I'm mildly pro-choice.

    I used to advocate an ideologically strict non-interventionist foreign policy. Now I believe foreign policy should be flexible.

    I used to think gay people chose their sexuality. Now, I think it's a complex combination of genetics and environment.

    Just stay open-minded and you'll definitely learn things.

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    Re: Do debates ever die?

    It depends.

    Debates can die for most people, if completely convincing truth proving one side of the debate comes to light.

    But they won't die for everyone.

    After all, I think there are some people who still believe the earth is flat...
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    Re: Do debates ever die?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    One thing I am noticing more and more about this forum is that nothing is ever resolved. People argue about various subjects, usually both sides will declare victory and nothing gets accomplished.

    Am I alone in this?
    No you are not. I have to say that the declaration that you have "won" in reality usually means quite the opposite at a debate board. One of the reasons I've never posted that idiotic declartion at a debate board in my life.

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    Re: Do debates ever die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Loin View Post
    No you are not. I have to say that the declaration that you have "won" in reality usually means quite the opposite at a debate board. One of the reasons I've never posted that idiotic declaration at a debate board in my life.
    True, the vast majority of debates cannot be "won".
    Only argued to convince the opposing side, or more commonly, the viewers on the sidelines.
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    Re: Do debates ever die?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    True, the vast majority of debates cannot be "won".
    Only argued to convince the opposing side, or more commonly, the viewers on the sidelines.
    But I have learned a lot and altered quite a few views of mine over the years I have been at DP.

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