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Where did the Universe come from?

Where did the Universe come from?


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Several interesting discussions have led me to do a poll, asking this important question. After voting, leave a comment on how you voted and what led you to think this way.
 
Option 7: "We don't know."
 
On principle, I have faith that God is ALL. God is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent. God created the Universe. I believe that God did this using mechanisms of science so he used a Big Bang to create the energy of the Universe, which evolved into the galaxies and stars we know today.
 
the universe came from the big bang, and as i got told by an astrophysicist, what was before is irrelevant as there was nothing, no space or time
 
Option 7: "We don't know."

Well of course we don't know. I left that off on purpose. It's an invalid response as I am asking what you believe to be the likely case. Additionally, I included options 5 and 6 which state that it is general scientific formation or general creationism. You must be able to answer your belief from the options given.
 
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the universe came from the big bang, and as i got told by an astrophysicist, what was before is irrelevant as there was nothing, no space or time

Where did all the energy come from? Angular momentum? Momentum? Charge?
 
I included options 5 and 6 which state that it is general scientific formation or general creationism. You must be able to answer your belief from the options given.

I cannot fit a square peg into a round hole, and I am in agreement my answer is: 7. I do not know.

I stared at the options to find the one that "must" be able to represent my belief, it is not there.

A "general scientific" viewpoint is that I cannot assert either for or against the existence of god since there is no scientific evidence to base it on, so it does not even fit into the equation.
 
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As far as I know not even the Bible speculates on any real details of how the universe was created, but I suppose one could imply that God created it. But the Bible isn't intended to explain it either.
 
Astonishingly enough, I agree with American on something. My personal view is that God probably didn't see the need to explain the minute details of physics to ancient people since they did not have any formal scientific education. The science in the first few chapters of Genesis was probably simplified and tailored to their frame of reference, however, the main point was not the science of the matter, but the moral understanding of the fall.
 
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that question is irrelevant as time and space did not exist so it is indeterminable

String theory has an answer. Nth dimensional blobs of energy called branes. I don't to pretend to understand the math behind it, but its a neat theory.
 
I cannot fit a square peg into a round hole, and I am in agreement my answer is: 7. I do not know.

I stared at the options to find the one that "must" be able to represent my belief, it is not there.

A "general scientific" viewpoint is that I cannot assert either for or against the existence of god since there is no scientific evidence to base it on, so it does not even fit into the equation.

So what is your belief?

If your "general scientific" viewpoint is such that you cannot use scientific evidence to determine the existence of God (no kidding. not provable), then you have no faith and you should answer 1, 2, or 5.
 
Energy and charge are independent of time and space.

probably, i wouldn't have a clue, maybe our universe was created from a nuclear blast in a "bigger" universe, and we are really just sub particles within sub particles
 
The Big Bang theory is the best theory we have currently. The exact nature of the Big Bang will probably evolve, but most likely it or something very similar will eventually be determined to be the real origin of the universe. Whether god was involved in the Big Bang is for others to determine and not a scientific problem.
 
As far as I know not even the Bible speculates on any real details of how the universe was created, but I suppose one could imply that God created it. But the Bible isn't intended to explain it either.

It does to a degree, of course this is highly metaphysical:

Genesis 1 said:
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

John 1 said:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
 
probably, i wouldn't have a clue, maybe our universe was created from a nuclear blast in a "bigger" universe, and we are really just sub particles within sub particles

Right, and so we are in a Russian doll, with infinite "bigger" universes. What created the first one?
 
String theory has an answer. Nth dimensional blobs of energy called branes. I don't to pretend to understand the math behind it, but its a neat theory.

I believe you are referring to Brane cosmology, which has some neat aspects to it, but based on my (limited) knowledge as some one who enjoys physics as kinda a hobby, I find it uncompelling. The math involved however is way over my head, so take that for what it is worth.
 
So what is your belief?

If your "general scientific" viewpoint is such that you cannot use scientific evidence to determine the existence of God (no kidding. not provable), then you have no faith and you should answer 1, 2, or 5.

No, 1,2 and 5 would be faith based as well.. faith that there is no god. That is equally invalid due to lack of evidence.

I am not basing my judgment on faith, therefore the answer is 7 (42 actually).
 
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The Big Bang theory is the best theory we have currently. The exact nature of the Big Bang will probably evolve, but most likely it or something very similar will eventually be determined to be the real origin of the universe. Whether god was involved in the Big Bang is for others to determine and not a scientific problem.

I am not asking a scientific question.

The energy has to come from somewhere? Another place just moves the location of the question, where did the energy originally come from? I believe the answer is God.
 
No, 1,2 and 5 would be faith based as well.. faith that there is no god. That is equally invalid due to lack of evidence.

I am not basing my judgment on faith, therefore the answer is 7 (42 actually).

Since you will never know, you should avoid these kinds of questions in the future.
 
Since you will never know, you should avoid these kinds of questions in the future.

ohh?? I love these kinds of questions, It is the answers that tend to leave me unsatisfied :2razz:
 
I am not asking a scientific question.

The energy has to come from somewhere? Another place just moves the location of the question, where did the energy originally come from? I believe the answer is God.

The Big bang theory represents the beginning of the universe. Before the Big Bang, the universe did not exist. As such, the question is meaningless in a scientific context.

Edited to add for clarity: In other words, if you are religious, you can easy state that god created the original singularity, but it simply is not provable. I personally choose not to speculate on such things. As such, I stand by my original answer.
 
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I don't know. I selected big bang with no god cause it seems more likely to me but really for no other reason than I find it impossible to believe that an all knowing, loving god could only do this good. I find it more likely that the bang occurred through some natural process that we don't yet understand. We have proof foe the big bang but as far as what was before it or how it started, we might as well speculate that a unicorn farted, cause its just as likely as any other idea that has no proof, lol.
 
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Right, and so we are in a Russian doll, with infinite "bigger" universes. What created the first one?

like you said, it's infinite, so none were created, they always have and always will exist, or maybe its a cycle, we're in a universe thats in a universe thats in a univers that's in our universe
 
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