View Poll Results: Where did the Universe come from?

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  • From the Big Bang, not sure what was before. God does not exist and was not involved.

    39 38.24%
  • Not the Big Bang, but some other physical event. God does not exist and was not involved.

    2 1.96%
  • God created the Universe without a Big Bang. Earth was especially created.

    2 1.96%
  • God created the Universe with a Big Bang and then the universe evolved.

    37 36.27%
  • Some other mechanism created the Universe, without God...

    13 12.75%
  • God created the Universe in some other fashion...

    9 8.82%
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    God is a scientist, among every other profession.
    Well then maybe He could be so kind as to publish some research is a peer-reviewed journal once in a while

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    According to some Hindus, maya, the grand illusion of life, is layered like an onion. At the outermost is matter, then comes energy, followed by mind (this is NOT like our individual minds, but the world of thought), then spirit, then God. There are forms in the worlds of matter (bodies), energy (forces), mind (thoughts), and spirit (souls and other spiritual creatures). There are no forms in the world of God. God has no form. The act of creation started in the realm of God, where he formed a Word (the First Form) that created the worlds of spirit, then mind, then energy, then matter. The world of spirit emanates from God. The world of mind emanates from the world of spirit. The world of energy emanates from the world of mind. The world of matter emanates from the world of energy.

    What we are postulating as the Big Bang is really the emanation (creation) of the world of energy from the world of mind. Prior to this there were emanations of the spirit world and the mental world. Note that the creation of matter from energy, reflects the emanation of matter from the world of energy. You cannot create the world of energy without emanation from the world of mind and that is called the Big Bang.

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Well then maybe He could be so kind as to publish some research is a peer-reviewed journal once in a while
    I believe he published in the following publications:
    • Vedas
    • Upanishads
    • Torah
    • New Testament
    • Quran


    Unfortunately, most of it is regarding human behavior and not cosmological metaphysics.

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    God created the universe, the big bang theory is flawed. I don't know how God did it, but I'm sure it wasn't through the big bang. Option #3 for me.

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    God created the universe, the big bang theory is flawed. I don't know how God did it, but I'm sure it wasn't through the big bang. Option #3 for me.
    I wouldn't say it is a complete explanation for the creation of the universe, but there is a lot of evidence that backs it up, so it is hard to totally dismiss it.

    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astr....html#evidence

    My biggest problem with the big bang is that it leaves a lot of loose ends, but the universe is a big and complex thing, so that's not to be unexpected.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 03-01-10 at 12:58 PM.

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    God created the universe, the big bang theory is flawed. I don't know how God did it, but I'm sure it wasn't through the big bang. Option #3 for me.
    Flawed how specifically?
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I believe he published in the following publications:
    • Vedas
    • Upanishads
    • Torah
    • New Testament
    • Quran


    Unfortunately, most of it is regarding human behavior and not cosmological metaphysics.
    Those aren't scientific journals and they weren't written by God.

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Those aren't scientific journals and they weren't written by God.
    Your user pane mentions clinging to bibles yet you dismiss the old and new testament?

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Your user pane mentions clinging to bibles yet you dismiss the old and new testament?
    OT =/= scientific journal.

    Instead of simply stating that God stopped the Earth for a day, a journal would have gon into much detail of God applying an exaggerated torque induced gyroscopic precession.

    • How was the torque applied?
    • How much torque was applied?
    • What was the exact circumference of the precession?
    • How was the precession terminated?
    • Include a Climate Impact Statement.


    Instead all we got was "the sun stood still"...well no it didn't, that's just what it looked like to a lay man on the ground. That's not a technical explanation of the physics and methods involved.
    Last edited by Jerry; 03-01-10 at 01:17 PM.

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    OT =/= scientific journal.

    Instead of simply stating that God stopped the Earth for a day, a journal would have gon into much detail of God applying an exaggerated torque induced gyroscopic precession.

    Instead all we got was "the sun stood still"...well no it didn't, that's just what it looked like to a lay man on the ground. That's not a technical explanation of the physics and methods involved.
    The scribes would have been pissed to have had to copy all that down in addition to the existing bible!

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