View Poll Results: Where did the Universe come from?

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  • From the Big Bang, not sure what was before. God does not exist and was not involved.

    39 38.24%
  • Not the Big Bang, but some other physical event. God does not exist and was not involved.

    2 1.96%
  • God created the Universe without a Big Bang. Earth was especially created.

    2 1.96%
  • God created the Universe with a Big Bang and then the universe evolved.

    37 36.27%
  • Some other mechanism created the Universe, without God...

    13 12.75%
  • God created the Universe in some other fashion...

    9 8.82%
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    But then where did 'god' come from? It had to come from somewhere, right? So where did it come from?

    You have an infinite loop going here with that kind of logic.
    No, God did not have to come from somewhere as God is everlasting.

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well, yes. So saying there is no matter, only energy is inaccurate.
    I don't understand what you're saying here.
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We have I think at least 2 people who post regularly who have degrees in physics, at least one of whom works in the field. I am waiting for one of them to find this thread and make us all look ignorant. Should be fun when they do, a good chance to learn.
    My undergrad was in Physics but it has been 18 years...

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I don't understand what you're saying here.
    What he is saying is that what we experience as matter is really energy in a certain state.

    You can sort of say its like water and ice. When it is ice, it is solid whereas if it was water, it flows and can affect things.

    Not a great analogy, but the best I can think of.

    But if you look at things like radioactive decay, you can see it. An atom lets off some energy and it loses some of its structure and either changes into another element or into an isotope of the same element.

    Another way of looking at it would be the interaction of matter and antimatter. It pretty much all turns into energy.

    I guess you could say it would be like ice melting. There is less ice (or in the atom's case protons or neutrons) after water drips off.

    But yeah, a real physicists would be better at this (as Redress states). I only know what I do from the college library and from reading for pleasure. So my understanding may be inaccurate.

    Its fun to act like I know something though
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Well we're also kind of getting off topic, but it's somewhat interesting.
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    All current data points towards a Big Bang. Whether or not there was a god involved is something science will not be able to say. It's all personal opinion at that point.
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well we're also kind of getting off topic, but it's somewhat interesting.
    That's not off-topic.

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Several interesting discussions have led me to do a poll, asking this important question. After voting, leave a comment on how you voted and what led you to think this way.
    Right now I subscribe to the expansion event (big-bang), after which the universe follows various laws and evolves accordingly. I personally believe everything was designed to operate the way it does, but as I know of no empirical evidence supporting the existence of a Creator I would caution anyone against mixing science with God here.

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Right now I subscribe to the expansion event (big-bang), after which the universe follows various laws and evolves accordingly. I personally believe everything was designed to operate the way it does, but as I know of no empirical evidence supporting the existence of a Creator I would caution anyone against mixing science with God here.
    God is a scientist, among every other profession.
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    God is a scientist, among every other profession.
    Off topic, but I wonder if it is possible to be a scientist if you already know anything.

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