From the Big Bang, not sure what was before. God does not exist and was not involved.
Not the Big Bang, but some other physical event. God does not exist and was not involved.
God created the Universe without a Big Bang. Earth was especially created.
God created the Universe with a Big Bang and then the universe evolved.
Some other mechanism created the Universe, without God...
God created the Universe in some other fashion...
Last edited by Lachean; 03-29-10 at 05:25 PM.
Who left the fridge open?
The problem is no theist can demonstrate the existence of their god, the presence of miracles, spirit, souls, the devil, heaven, hell, or the holy spirit.
All they can do is CLAIM such things exist. They never demonstrate or use reason or evidence to confirm or verify that which they claim.
Instead you get those such as Reef who believe that because he can contemplate it in his mind and he wants it to be true then it MUST be true and real! Its downright ridiculous.
Hey, at least he admitted to not being rational or logical. I think that pretty much seals the deal on what he is trying to "argue". Frankly, I'm confused as to why he keeps responding; this is a debate forum after all, and one cannot debate with blind faith and feelings, no matter how warm and fuzzy they are.
Last edited by Khayembii Communique; 03-29-10 at 05:33 PM.
"I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."
verified confirmed theories and facts are testable. Knowledge from faith is not.Please explain how you draw a distinction between imagination and verified confirmed theories and facts?