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  • From the Big Bang, not sure what was before. God does not exist and was not involved.

    39 38.24%
  • Not the Big Bang, but some other physical event. God does not exist and was not involved.

    2 1.96%
  • God created the Universe without a Big Bang. Earth was especially created.

    2 1.96%
  • God created the Universe with a Big Bang and then the universe evolved.

    37 36.27%
  • Some other mechanism created the Universe, without God...

    13 12.75%
  • God created the Universe in some other fashion...

    9 8.82%
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    No, 1,2 and 5 would be faith based as well.. faith that there is no god. That is equally invalid due to lack of evidence.

    I am not basing my judgment on faith, therefore the answer is 7 (42 actually).
    Since you will never know, you should avoid these kinds of questions in the future.

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Since you will never know, you should avoid these kinds of questions in the future.
    ohh?? I love these kinds of questions, It is the answers that tend to leave me unsatisfied
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I am not asking a scientific question.

    The energy has to come from somewhere? Another place just moves the location of the question, where did the energy originally come from? I believe the answer is God.
    The Big bang theory represents the beginning of the universe. Before the Big Bang, the universe did not exist. As such, the question is meaningless in a scientific context.

    Edited to add for clarity: In other words, if you are religious, you can easy state that god created the original singularity, but it simply is not provable. I personally choose not to speculate on such things. As such, I stand by my original answer.
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    I don't know. I selected big bang with no god cause it seems more likely to me but really for no other reason than I find it impossible to believe that an all knowing, loving god could only do this good. I find it more likely that the bang occurred through some natural process that we don't yet understand. We have proof foe the big bang but as far as what was before it or how it started, we might as well speculate that a unicorn farted, cause its just as likely as any other idea that has no proof, lol.
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Right, and so we are in a Russian doll, with infinite "bigger" universes. What created the first one?
    like you said, it's infinite, so none were created, they always have and always will exist, or maybe its a cycle, we're in a universe thats in a universe thats in a univers that's in our universe
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    String theory has an answer. Nth dimensional blobs of energy called branes. I don't to pretend to understand the math behind it, but its a neat theory.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I believe you are referring to Brane cosmology, which has some neat aspects to it, but based on my (limited) knowledge as some one who enjoys physics as kinda a hobby, I find it uncompelling. The math involved however is way over my head, so take that for what it is worth.
    Brane cosmology originally evolved partly from the work of [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twistor_theory"]Twistors[/ame] by Roger Penrose, Hawking's partner in black hole radiation (Hawking radiation). Twistors defined time and space around them.

    What is so interesting to me are the scales of matter:
    • an atom is 10-10 m.
    • a nucleus is 10-15 m.
    • a proton is 10-15 m.
    • an electron is 10-18 m.
    • a quark is upper bounds 10-18 m.
    • a string is 10-35 m.
    • Planck length = 1.61625210−35 m.


    So an atom is 99.999% empty
    A proton, made up of 3 quarks, is 99.9% empty
    A quark, made up of several strings, is 99.9999999999999999% empty.

    There is no such thing as matter. It is only empty space, energy and force.
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The Big bang theory represents the beginning of the universe. Before the Big Bang, the universe did not exist. As such, the question is meaningless in a scientific context.

    Edited to add for clarity: In other words, if you are religious, you can easy state that god created the original singularity, but it simply is not provable. I personally choose not to speculate on such things. As such, I stand by my original answer.
    Remind me what the question was? If the question is where does the energy come from, it most certainly matters in a scientific context. The singularity must transfer energy.

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Remind me what the question was? If the question is where does the energy come from, it most certainly matters in a scientific context. The singularity must transfer energy.
    No, it is beyond the scope of science. Before the universe, the universe did not exist. Physics is the study of the universe, from the micro to the macro.
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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    like you said, it's infinite, so none were created, they always have and always will exist, or maybe its a cycle, we're in a universe thats in a universe thats in a univers that's in our universe
    Yes, infinite was a poor choice of word here. In my mind, it was never infinite, there is a beginning.

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    Re: Where did the Universe come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, it is beyond the scope of science. Before the universe, the universe did not exist. Physics is the study of the universe, from the micro to the macro.
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