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Thread: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    what?

    You got me confused too.
    You said you've seen me in real life, and then you said you were stalking me. Are you off your meds today?

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Obviously, a single person wouldn't stand a chance. I'm talking about an organized insurgency.
    Wont have much effect, unless the "central government" is in tatters and the military cant keep the order of the general population.



    What impact?
    Baddies, taking the piss out of the second amendment, shooting good people. We have the same problem...only because guns are banned, there's a knife problem. Thank god we banned guns.



    Why is that? Has human nature changed in the past one hundred years?
    The government isn't a person, that's the thing.

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    You was out there for a while! Thanks for your valuable service.

    If 10% of the US population revolted, the size of the insurgency would be roughly 30 million. The United States is one of the largest countries on the planet, with some of the most varied and difficult terrain. Quelling an insurgency in the United States would be virtually impossible.
    They have jets, UAV, Predator Drones, Strategic bombers....id have to disagree. Plus, its nothing they have never fought in before.
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Just curious. If somebody was to rob your house, and you killed the robber, does it constitute a prison sentence? In the UK, you cant touch a robber. Even if he ties your family up or threatens you.
    When confronting a robber in your home in the US one must be sure to shoot before the burglar can turn his back on you. For some strange reason there a onus placed on putting entry holes in the wrong places on future corpses.

    That, and it's probably wise to make sure he's dead before you call the authorities, since if he lives, he'll probably sue, but if he dies, he doesn't get to contest your description of events.

    Sawed off shotguns are EXCELLENT for home defense, since they pretty much ensure a kill and yet the shot that goes through the walls is unlikely to kill someone out on the street. Since this gives the homeowner an "unfair" advantage, however, most states impose ridiculous laws regulating the length of shotgun barrels, so only criminals make use of these weapons.

    So, one has to be careful when taking out the trash, but garbage disposal is not illegal in the US.

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Dude, I have no idea who the hell this freak is. I doubt he's stalking me, though, because if he had seen me he would never say I wasn't impressive...
    Really? Wtf is he on about then?
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Sawed off shotguns are EXCELLENT for home defense, since they pretty much ensure a kill and yet the shot that goes through the walls is unlikely to kill someone out on the street. Since this gives the homeowner an "unfair" advantage, however, most states impose ridiculous laws regulating the length of shotgun barrels, so only criminals make use of these weapons.
    An "unfair" advantage? Is this a burglary or a game of Pokemon??

    Man, it seems pretty ridiculous there too, but not as bad.
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    and what, you're incapable of defending yourself without a gun?
    I should have to get into a sword fight or fist fight with some thug breaking into my house when I should have the option of blowing him away without giving him the least shred of "level-playing-field"?

    Why should he, violating my home, have anything resembling a fair chance whatsoever? If he wanted that, all he had to do was stay on the other side of my property line. That's as fair as any man needs to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    i feel safer when i wander the city at night because i know that if someones gonna try and mug me, they're going to use a knife, which is much easier to defend against than a gun
    You want to pretend that just because there's a law banning guns that the criminals will obey this law? (HINT: Criminals BREAK laws. It's part of their professional ethics.)

    Well, in America, our criminals aren't wimps like in Australia, and our criminals don't obey the laws.

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    You said you've seen me in real life, and then you said you were stalking me. Are you off your meds today?
    No, I am on my meds today.

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    No, I am on my meds today.
    Have you seen him in real life or not?
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    An "unfair" advantage? Is this a burglary or a game of Pokemon??

    Man, it seems pretty ridiculous there too, but not as bad.
    It's the moronic courts and state legislatures that violate the Constitution and infringe on gun rights, what can I say?

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Have you seen him in real life or not?
    no..................

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