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Thread: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I'd rather have my arms readily available. Tyrannical governments don't let rebels call a time out...
    You wont have much effect on the US marines. You're already screwed with that massive defence budget which will just work against you. I dont think you should worry to much anyway. You might also be pleased to know you are allowed guns in Europe btw....
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    You are probably more free to do drugs, but prohibited from buying a sugary cereal.
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    You wont have much effect on the US marines.
    Why? Marines get killed all the time. They're not super-humans.

    By the way, I was a US Marine. Any squad patrolling my neck of the woods would be in for a nasty surprise...

    You're already screwed with that massive defence budget which will just work against you. I dont think you should worry to much anyway. You might also be pleased to know you are allowed guns in Europe btw....
    And despite all that super-awesome technology, rag-tag insurgencies manage to inflict causalities on us.

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I'd rather have my arms readily available. Tyrannical governments don't let rebels call a time out...
    Well the thing is that the government allows for any purchases done, hell if you have the money you can buy a tank online. BUT the government makes sure that the gun cannot be fired. And retired jet aircraft from the military are not allowed to be sold with the radar or any weapons. And any gun you buy is not military grade and same with the ammunition. So trust me any arms you have the government has better.
    The truth is that we may believe we are free but try letting for your grass to grow over 11 inches and watch the government come ready to fine you. Also I don't believe you understand since most ordinances or laws are written to give control freaks authority maybe that is just the case here in suburbia. But my town has a limit on the number of dogs you can own and it is a no bark community and you can not park more cars than is allowed on the driveway and you must rent an extra storage space unless you want for the government to fine you and when they fine you it isn't just a small piece of government after you. Its the whole.

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Well the thing is that the government allows for any purchases done, hell if you have the money you can buy a tank online. BUT the government makes sure that the gun cannot be fired. And retired jet aircraft from the military are not allowed to be sold with the radar or any weapons. And any gun you buy is not military grade and same with the ammunition. So trust me any arms you have the government has better.
    The truth is that we may believe we are free but try letting for your grass to grow over 11 inches and watch the government come ready to fine you. Also I don't believe you understand since most ordinances or laws are written to give control freaks authority maybe that is just the case here in suburbia. But my town has a limit on the number of dogs you can own and it is a no bark community and you can not park more cars than is allowed on the driveway and you must rent an extra storage space unless you want for the government to fine you and when they fine you it isn't just a small piece of government after you. Its the whole.
    I agree that the US is not as free as it should be.

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Why? Marines get killed all the time. They're not super-humans.

    By the way, I was a US Marine. Any squad patrolling my neck of the woods would be in for a nasty surprise...
    I call bs on you being a former marine I've seen you in real life and you are not too impressive. But really a young marine would rape you in real life.

    And despite all that super-awesome technology, rag-tag insurgencies manage to inflict causalities on us.
    yeah, but casualties are not the same as deaths. If you have seen videos of RPG-29's going off hitting US tanks you see that even if the tank is ruined the people inside it are not.

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Why? Marines get killed all the time. They're not super-humans.
    I know but i bet an army full could kick your ass.
    Your hands would be tied, unless you get in contact with a bunch of freedom fighters or something. I dont know. I just dont think the possible impact on society is worth legalizing it, considering the chances of your government turning on you is minimal, if there is any chance at all.

    By the way, I was a US Marine. Any squad patrolling my neck of the woods would be in for a nasty surprise...
    Cool, my brother was in the army. When did you serve?


    And despite all that super-awesome technology, rag-tag insurgencies manage to inflict causalities on us.
    True say. We are raping the Taliban though. I just dont see a bunch of American freedom fighters toppling the governments domestically. The Taliban cant manage it and there only up against 50,000 overseas American soldiers.
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    I call bs on you being a former marine I've seen you in real life and you are not too impressive. But really a young marine would rape you in real life.
    Have you been stalking him?
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Have you been stalking him?
    yes. we both live in Chicago(area for me).

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    No nation in Europe has a Constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear arms.

    Less Free.

    No First Amendment or equivalent in Europe that I'm aware of.

    Less Free.

    Most employers in Europe cannot fire employees without God's approval.

    Less Free.

    Unfortunately, the United States doesn't obey it's own Constitution, so many of our freedoms are eroding, too.

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