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Thread: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    This is not true... These are GUIDELINE hours.

    No EU state have more than 50% tax pressure, and few have over 40%. In fact, on average they pay not much more tax than people do in the US.

    Merits decide the pay you get, but in addition Europeans have stronger protection than Americans, which is why Europe is not as fu**ed up and people dont get screwed over all the time.
    Merits decide the pay you get? Really? By merits I am assuming that if someone comes into work everyday and works every hour possible they would be highly payed? But what happens when that individual is a quiet individual would he be making as much as a social individual who really spends his time talking with other coworkers, especially the bosses? Because you see if Europe or for that matter the US cared about merits. The guy who works consecutively should be getting paid more because that loud mouth really isn't putting in their all for the job. Yet time and time we see that the individual who is more social and socially approachable wins out. Heck, I have met bosses who were not good people but yet they held the position to fire and raise salaries.
    Europe is fuked and the US is fuked the question should be who is going to be having more fun when the chit hits the fan? And I can say that the Europeans will be having the biggest fun, that doesn't mean they are better though.

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Not with the Muslim takeover your not freer. Be careful not to offend them or they will Jihad your ass.
    And what about the Mexicans here? Or even the blacks? We suffer more here from racism than in Europe. Even if they are being "invaded" by Muslims.

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    And what about the Mexicans here? Or even the blacks? We suffer more here from racism than in Europe. Even if they are being "invaded" by Muslims.
    Look, the US taught the world what liberty and self-government is, period.
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    In a word? No.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    And what about the Mexicans here? Or even the blacks? We suffer more here from racism than in Europe. Even if they are being "invaded" by Muslims.
    Suffer from what? Our own lack of motivation to improve our selfs? Gimme a break! The only thing racism affects in the US anymore is how often you can play the race card.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Look, the US taught the world what liberty and self-government is, period.
    so there were no free self governing countries before america?
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Not with the Muslim takeover your not freer. Be careful not to offend them or they will Jihad your ass.
    Where does this delusion come from? How about your "jewish takeover"
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Merits decide the pay you get? Really? By merits I am assuming that if someone comes into work everyday and works every hour possible they would be highly payed? But what happens when that individual is a quiet individual would he be making as much as a social individual who really spends his time talking with other coworkers, especially the bosses? Because you see if Europe or for that matter the US cared about merits. The guy who works consecutively should be getting paid more because that loud mouth really isn't putting in their all for the job. Yet time and time we see that the individual who is more social and socially approachable wins out. Heck, I have met bosses who were not good people but yet they held the position to fire and raise salaries.
    This exist everywhere..
    I find it shamefully when people who do a bad job, but are better at sucking up to the boss or saying the right things at the right time, gets a raise, and not the hard worker. But hey, thats corporate culture like it is around the world. Unfortunately.

    I do like to think in the end that the hard worker who just do a good job always win out, everywhere. I think there is no difference on this in Europe or America. Its a human problem, not a regional one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Europe is fuked and the US is fuked the question should be who is going to be having more fun when the chit hits the fan? And I can say that the Europeans will be having the biggest fun, that doesn't mean they are better though.
    Everything is fuc**d up basically... Doesnt mean Europe doesnt pay on merits, because they do..
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    so there were no free self governing countries before america?
    How many were like us at the time?
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    Re: Is Europe "freer" that America or just as "free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Where does this delusion come from? How about your "jewish takeover"
    It comes from the rising Muslim population in Europe and terrorist threats/extremists within the country. Sorta like how when a cartoonist draws Muhammad the extremists sentence him to death. Sorta like how in some European countries they caved in and allowed Muslims to uphold their laws in certain communities (Shariah and all that it entails). There is no "Jewish" take over, I have no idea what you are talking about. Europe is being infiltrated by extremists and their weak and squishy governments are to scared to take a stance on things.

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