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  • It reinforces the lesson

    51 63.75%
  • It teaches responsibility

    35 43.75%
  • It prepares us for real life

    21 26.25%
  • It does even more ...

    16 20.00%
  • It does NONE of these things

    21 26.25%
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    10 12.50%
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Thread: What Does Homework Do?

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    Re: What Does Homework Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
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    Re: What Does Homework Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    I don't think that is true at all. I'm not saying to take it to the extremes of an idiot savant, but Rain Man was a genius. An average mathematician who also knows his state capitals might be smarter than a brilliant one who cannot tie his own shoes, but that is why we make velcro. It is the brilliant one who is going to lead to breakthroughs and discoveries. Being good at everything means you are great at nothing. Human potential needs to be focused.
    I'm not saying there can't be focus. I didn't say people need to know through linear algebra, differential equations, and partial differential equations. I said through Pre-cal at least. Pre-cal isn't a specialization in math, it's like algebra...a basic. And it's useful, especially in finance. And while it may be that being good at everything means you are great at nothing, many many people are neither good at everything or great at something. So there's no problem asking that people start to learn more of the basics. It should be expected. Calculus is a basic, I'm not asking people to understand non-Euclidean geometry. I think people need to take more math, science, language (including English), history, and political science courses in high school. The standards on high school are so pathetically low that we get people thinking that calculus is some horribly advanced subject that can never be used in every day life.
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    Re: What Does Homework Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm not saying there can't be focus. I didn't say people need to know through linear algebra, differential equations, and partial differential equations. I said through Pre-cal at least. Pre-cal isn't a specialization in math, it's like algebra...a basic. And it's useful, especially in finance. And while it may be that being good at everything means you are great at nothing, many many people are neither good at everything or great at something. So there's no problem asking that people start to learn more of the basics. It should be expected. Calculus is a basic, I'm not asking people to understand non-Euclidean geometry. I think people need to take more math, science, language (including English), history, and political science courses in high school. The standards on high school are so pathetically low that we get people thinking that calculus is some horribly advanced subject that can never be used in every day life.
    Algebra isn't even useful. There is no reason for your average adult to ever learn to multiply fractions. Once people know how to work a calculator that is enough math skills to last a lifetime.
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    Re: What Does Homework Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    Algebra isn't even useful. There is no reason for your average adult to ever learn to multiply fractions. Once people know how to work a calculator that is enough math skills to last a lifetime.
    Carpentry involves multiplying fractions all the time. It also involves algebra and geometry.

    And toolbelts don't have pockets for calculators. It'd be broken in five minutes on a jobsite.
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    Re: What Does Homework Do?

    Homework did nothing but piss me off. Hated it then, still hate it.

    It did teach me one valuable lesson...

    Don't take work home, period.
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    Re: What Does Homework Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Carpentry involves multiplying fractions all the time. It also involves algebra and geometry.

    And toolbelts don't have pockets for calculators. It'd be broken in five minutes on a jobsite.
    Ummm... I did autocad and drafting with "Doyen and Associates" in Chicago. Never multiplied a fraction I can remember. We did use geometry allot, but not much in the way of algebra and calculus.
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    Re: What Does Homework Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    Algebra isn't even useful. There is no reason for your average adult to ever learn to multiply fractions. Once people know how to work a calculator that is enough math skills to last a lifetime.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    That's how people start making mistakes, getting taken advantage of, etc. People who say "algebra isn't even useful" tend to be people who don't know algebra enough to use it. But if you know it and you're doing things in everyday life, you're going to come across times when you can say "oh yeah, I can just do this with algebra, easy!". It's useful when you know it and apply it, and there's plenty in everyday life to apply this too if you understand enough. I use math all the time, and not just in my lab. Being able to do order of magnitude calculations in your head is very very useful too...especially on contract where there is payment/interest. I don't know, it's just an ignorant statement to say that not even algebra is useful.
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    Re: What Does Homework Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Ummm... I did autocad and drafting with "Doyen and Associates" in Chicago. Never multiplied a fraction I can remember. We did use geometry allot, but not much in the way of algebra and calculus.
    Yeah, that sort of stuff is ok...but then you never know if you've ****ed up unless you can understand the numbers as well. Engineers....they kinda take the easy way out. But by doing so, lose out on a lot of information. Not the top engineers mind you, those guys tend to be remarkable. But the average ones. And it happens a lot, it's important to know the math and understand the numbers. Otherwise, you're not much above a monkey.
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    Re: What Does Homework Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Ummm... I did autocad and drafting with "Doyen and Associates" in Chicago. Never multiplied a fraction I can remember. We did use geometry allot, but not much in the way of algebra and calculus.
    Autocad and drafting aren't carpentry. It's much easier to draw it up with a computer than it is to put it up in reality.

    For example, let's say you got a 8/12 roof with a an 8ft ceiling. The outside wall is staggered in 1 ft 9 inches, but the overhang of the roof is unstaggered.

    I'm going to have to raise the height of the staggered in portion of the wall by a certain amount of inches so that I can rest my rafters on it. (these types of things are almost always missing on the prints, so we basically have to figure it out on the job)

    To describe the algebra involved, we are moving in 1 foot 9 inches or 21 inches inward (which relates to the 12 portion of the 8/12 pitch). X will equal the height I need to raise the inner portion of the staggered wall to set the rafters on and that relates to the 8 of the 8/12 pitch.

    So the known numbers are 21 inches, 12 inches, and 8 inches. The unknown is X

    To find my ratio for this I divide take 21/12 * 8 = X

    21/12 = 1 and 9/12 = 1 and 3/4. 1 and 3/4 * 8 = 14 inches.

    Then I have to raise the bird's mouth on the rafters for this portion of the roof to suit the raised walls, thus keeping my overhang even throughout while staggering the inside wall.

    It gets really complicated if the rafters are Jack rafters and not common rafters.
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    Re: What Does Homework Do?

    Home work is a mindless task for students to do. it doesnt do anything but piss people off for wasting their time in a school building learning, and then they give you stuff to do at home its outrageous. Homework taught me one thing: How to lie.
    My mother: Do you have any homework?
    Me: Nope. (in all actuality i knew i did.)
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