View Poll Results: What to do with a corrupt Rangel:

Voters
11. You may not vote on this poll
  • Impeach then prosecute.

    8 72.73%
  • Strip him of all committee chairmanships, forever.

    2 18.18%
  • Pretend nothing happened.

    0 0%
  • Throw him a party.

    1 9.09%
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12

Thread: What Should Be Done About Rangel?

  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Last Seen
    09-22-10 @ 04:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    11,430

    What Should Be Done About Rangel?

    Charlie Rangel ruling puts Nancy Pelosi in a jam

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33564.html#ixzz0gg0W5IPl
    The House ethics committee's decision to admonish New York Democratic Rep. Charlie Rangel over improper corporate-sponsored trips to the Caribbean leaves Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the ethics committee itself facing difficult questions.


    When then-Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) was admonished by the ethics committee in October 2004, Pelosi and other Democratic leaders went on the offensive against him.


    “Mr. DeLay has proven himself to be ethically unfit to lead the party,” Pelosi said at a news conference the following day. “The burden falls upon his fellow House Republicans. Republicans must answer: Do they want an ethically unfit person to be their majority leader or do they want to remove the ethical cloud that hangs over the Capitol?”


    Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) — now the House majority leader — said DeLay "certainly ought to step aside as leader at this point in time because I think his credibility has been undermined by these findings."


    Six years later, the shoe is on the other foot: Republicans have previously called for Rangel to lose his chairmanship over his ethical troubles, and some of them — including Indiana Rep. Mike Pence — renewed that call Thursday night.


    How will Pelosi and Hoyer respond?


    Neither had anything to say about Rangel's future Thursday night, but the issue is certain to be a central topic for Democratic leadership in the days ahead.


    The ethics committee's decision on Rangel's trips resolves just a small part of the ethical controversy in which he's caught up. The ethics committee is still investigating a variety of issues related to Rangel's personal finances, including his use of a rent-stabilized apartment, his fundraising on behalf of a research institute bearing his name, and his failure to declare hundreds of thousands of dollars on income and assets on annual financial-disclosure reports.


    The ethics committee, meanwhile, appears to have issues of its own.


    In a statement Thursday night, committee leaders Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) and Jo Bonner (R-Ala.), took Rangel and his staff to task — but also admonished the committee's own former counsel.


    "The evidence shows that Rep. Rangel’s staff knew that corporations had contributed funds to Carib News specifically for the 2007 and 2007 [trips],” Lofgren and Bonner said. “This information was not provided to the Standards Committee when [Rangel] sought and received approval to accept these trips.”
    What should be done about Rangel if he doesn't have the decency to resign?

    I say impeach then prosecute. The standards of behavior for elected officials must be shown to be higher than for mere mortals.
    Last edited by Scarecrow Akhbar; 02-26-10 at 04:42 PM.

  2. #2
    Sage

    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Goldsboro,PA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    5,595
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: What Should Be Done About Rangel?

    How about a fair and even hearing, then a trail, if there really was any wrong-doing.
    When these people misuse public monies, they must be forced to pay back at least 100%, I do not care who it is and of course, a man's political party cannot be a factor.
    No vote, of course.

  3. #3
    Traditionalist
    phattonez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    12-05-17 @ 03:45 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    20,072

    Re: What Should Be Done About Rangel?

    If the people don't like it then they should vote him out.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

  4. #4
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Last Seen
    09-22-10 @ 04:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    11,430

    Re: What Should Be Done About Rangel?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    How about a fair and even hearing, then a trail, if there really was any wrong-doing.
    When these people misuse public monies, they must be forced to pay back at least 100%, I do not care who it is and of course, a man's political party cannot be a factor.
    No vote, of course.
    The Ethics Committee...the Democrat led and dominated Ethics Committee has already determined that wrong doing has happened, and the one thing that is certain is that they downplayed the extent of it.

    A man in public office convicted of playing lose with tax payer dollars has to do more than pay the money back. He should have to reach his hands out through the bars of his prison cell to do it.

  5. #5
    Noblesse oblige
    Ockham's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    New Jersey
    Last Seen
    01-27-17 @ 07:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    23,909
    Blog Entries
    4

    Re: What Should Be Done About Rangel?

    I can't support him being impeached and prosecuted. The man should be removed from his chairmanships though and should basically be told he will not receive DNC support for a re-election, basically cutting his political career down and putting him out to pasture. This is why we need a cap on how many times politicians can get re-elected. He got too comfortable, grew too much ego and got too big of a mouth over too long of a time. My expectation is Pelosi will be a hypocrite ****, which is her nature and stand behind Rangel. IF that happens, I'll change my vote to prosecute.

    And let us not forget those poignant words from Pelosi herself:

    "The American people voted to restore integrity and honesty in Washington, D.C., and the Democrats intend to lead the most honest, most open and most ethical Congress in history."

    Intend? Doubted it then, laugh at it now.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


  6. #6
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Last Seen
    09-22-10 @ 04:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    11,430

    Re: What Should Be Done About Rangel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I can't support him being impeached and prosecuted.
    Leona Helmsley went to jail for exactly the same kind of tax fraud.

    Why shouldn't Chuck spend time in public housing, too?

  7. #7
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Last Seen
    05-13-11 @ 09:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    4,075
    Blog Entries
    3

    Re: What Should Be Done About Rangel?

    Either Ms Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats and the Republicans are serious when they intone their dislike of corruption.
    Or,
    With the Democrats this only applies to Republican officials caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
    With the Republican this only applies to Democrats officials caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

    Boot all the bums you can in the Mid term elections.

  8. #8
    Girthless
    RightinNYC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    New York, NY
    Last Seen
    01-23-11 @ 11:56 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    25,894

    Re: What Should Be Done About Rangel?

    I'm always hesitant about calling for impeachment of public officials, but Rangel is so mind bogglingly corrupt that I'm willing to make an exception. He's almost certainly unwilling to resign like most people in this situation, so he'd have to be impeached. That isn't gonna happen though, so the end result will probably be that he will retire in 6 or 8 years, live off his millions, and have the street next to Adam Clayton Powell Blvd named after him.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

  9. #9
    Liberal Fascist For Life!


    Redress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:15 PM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    93,272
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: What Should Be Done About Rangel?

    You start with stripping him of chairmanships, then you prosecute him. Corruption cannot be allowed.
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

  10. #10
    Sporadic insanity normal.


    The Mark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 01:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    19,736

    Re: What Should Be Done About Rangel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You start with stripping him of chairmanships, then you prosecute him. Corruption cannot be allowed.
    Trouble is, it currently IS allowed.
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •