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    Re: Should sanctuary cities be held legally responsible for the illegals they shelter

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    Re: Should sanctuary cities be held legally responsible for the illegals they shelter

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Historically the final resolution of the problem they have with tyrants involves a bunch of men with rifles and the tyrant in front of a brick wall, though the details vary.
    So you are saying the real purpose of the Second Amendment is to provide the means for citizens of the USA to protect themselves from a tyrannical government?

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    Re: Should sanctuary cities be held legally responsible for the illegals they shelter

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    So you are saying the real purpose of the Second Amendment is to provide the means for citizens of the USA to protect themselves from a tyrannical government?

    Thatís how I see it.
    Undoubtedly. So it is recorded! It happened once before and it could happen again. That is why the Founders included it in the Constitution.

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    Re: Should sanctuary cities be held legally responsible for the illegals they shelter

    In Texas, we deal with this open invasion daily. Believe me when I say, you don't want it in your Neighborhood. but you soon will, ---I hand them all maps, to your house.
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    Re: Should sanctuary cities be held legally responsible for the illegals they shelter

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomyal View Post
    Isn't the Devil in the details?
    The brick wall is optional. Rope costs more than bullets, but is re-usable.

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    Re: Should sanctuary cities be held legally responsible for the illegals they shelter

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    So you are saying the real purpose of the Second Amendment is to provide the means for citizens of the USA to protect themselves from a tyrannical government?

    Thatís how I see it.
    That's the specific purpose as described in the Federalist Papers. #28, I believe.

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    Re: Should sanctuary cities be held legally responsible for the illegals they shelter

    It is totally scarey how woefully ignorant our population has become about the founding philosphies and principles of this country. (thank you NEA) In absence of that knowledge, anything that smacks of 'tough love, meanness or unfair in outcome, have become targets of the 'rank and file'!

    I might go onto to add, that the abuses of our 'central government', against liberty and freedom, have gone light years beyond the abuses of King George III.
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    Re: Should sanctuary cities be held legally responsible for the illegals they shelter

    First, there shouldn't be any sanctuary cities. We ought to pass a Federal law outlawing that. I also like the people's ideas about withholding all Federal funding to states that have sanctuary cities. However, to the question asked, yes, those cities should be held responsible.

    Illegal immigration is a strange situation. A lot of people seem to feel that the laws against illegally immigrating are not real laws and should therefore be ignored. However, they are real, and are vital to the well being of the nation and therefore should be enforced.

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    Re: Should sanctuary cities be held legally responsible for the illegals they shelter

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    First, there shouldn't be any sanctuary cities. We ought to pass a Federal law outlawing that. I also like the people's ideas about withholding all Federal funding to states that have sanctuary cities. However, to the question asked, yes, those cities should be held responsible.

    Illegal immigration is a strange situation. A lot of people seem to feel that the laws against illegally immigrating are not real laws and should therefore be ignored. However, they are real, and are vital to the well being of the nation and therefore should be enforced.
    Exactly. If a city declared itself a sanctuary for murderers or child molesters, would anyone take them seriously or respect it? Of course not. So why would anyone respect a city who is protecting another class of law-breakers?

    I'm all for arresting the city council, going in and clearing out the illegal aliens. You cannot vote to ignore the law.
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    Re: Should sanctuary cities be held legally responsible for the illegals they shelter

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should sanctuary cities be held legally responsible for the illegals I.E. criminals they shelter?


    I say yes. It would be like a security guard who allows trespassers into the building and then tries to act like it is not his fault when one of the trespassers assaults someone,steals and or vandalizes property. Most people with at least a ounce of common sense would say the security guard should be fired and forced to reimburse the property owner for the theft and damage that occurred and sued by the victims. The judge would be right that the city can not prevent crime but in the case of an illegal alien the city did not have to shelter that criminal,those people were victimized as a direct result of the city allowing trespassers/criminals to stay. Had that illegal been deported those people would have not been victimized by that illegal.



    Judge tosses sanctuary suit in S.F. killings
    The family of a father and two sons who were shot dead on a San Francisco street in 2008 can't hold the city responsible for failing to turn their alleged killer over to immigration authorities after earlier arrests, a judge has ruled.
    The city isn't legally to blame for any crimes Edwin Ramos, a suspected illegal immigrant from El Salvador, committed after his release for the offenses he committed as a juvenile, Judge Charlotte Woolard of San Francisco Superior Court said Monday.

    Cities "generally are not liable for failing to protect individuals against crime," Woolard said.

    Read more: Judge tosses sanctuary suit in S.F. killings
    Their leadership should be fired, criminally charged, and State Congress not allowed to perform any other function until strong never-expiring anti-illegal regulations become law.

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