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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    As long as there going reconciliation they might as reconcile a decent plan instead of the load of s*** this bill is.
    Ayyye, it doesn't matter. Instead of Democrats getting kicked out for a good reason and the Republican party changing in response, the Democrats are going to get kicked out for their own stupidity and so Republicans won't change. We'll have bad party #1 and bad party #2. It blows.

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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    I am proud to live in a nation where such a substantive and free-wheeling conversation can take place in public among our political leaders.

    And, I am proud to have such a intelligent and well informed national leader, President Barack Obama.

    God bless America!
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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    As I said in the other thread, the only way for a bipartisan meeting like this to be effective is if true bipartisanship is the intention of this administration, which it is not. This is just a cheap ploy to present the image of bipartisanship after the President's post-partisan image has been sullied by his own failures to meet the standards he presented for himself during the campaign, such as his repeated comments to air all debates on health care on C-SPAN.

    This health care bill is going down in flames not because of the Republican opposition, but because of the American people. American people, despite the Left's belief, are too smart to accept naked socialism because its chief propagator has a black face and can read a decent speech. The Left has tried to race card to silence debate, they've tried attacking the character of those expressing dissent, they've even tried to ostracize and demonize media outlets, like FOX and Talk Radio, for being against this socialistic plot.

    Liberals simply do not get that the American people are not buying this massive takeover of government. However, whether they like it or not, the Democrats will learn how badly they have overreached come November this year in the mid-term elections, as well as in 2012 when Obama is catastrophically defeated in the next general election.

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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    I like the fact that the GOP is saying "no mandate" because that was a big thing that annoyed me about the Dem plan.


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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    .......as well as in 2012 when Obama is catastrophically defeated in the next general election.
    If things continue as they have been, HE would have to have an awful big pair to even considering running!!

    You think Carter got slammed? Hold on to your britches!
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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    I like the fact that the GOP is saying "no mandate" because that was a big thing that annoyed me about the Dem plan.
    Of course, you know that the mandate was originally a Republican proposal, right?
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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    As I said in the other thread, the only way for a bipartisan meeting like this to be effective is if true bipartisanship is the intention of this administration, which it is not. This is just a cheap ploy to present the image of bipartisanship after the President's post-partisan image has been sullied by his own failures to meet the standards he presented for himself during the campaign, such as his repeated comments to air all debates on health care on C-SPAN.

    This health care bill is going down in flames not because of the Republican opposition, but because of the American people. American people, despite the Left's belief, are too smart to accept naked socialism because its chief propagator has a black face and can read a decent speech. The Left has tried to race card to silence debate, they've tried attacking the character of those expressing dissent, they've even tried to ostracize and demonize media outlets, like FOX and Talk Radio, for being against this socialistic plot.

    Liberals simply do not get that the American people are not buying this massive takeover of government. However, whether they like it or not, the Democrats will learn how badly they have overreached come November this year in the mid-term elections, as well as in 2012 when Obama is catastrophically defeated in the next general election.

    The American people don’t want this so-called bill.Put something in front of them like a single payer and the approval will go up. Hell, when the polling was done with a lame a** public option it was up in the high sixties.
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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Of course, you know that the mandate was originally a Republican proposal, right?
    Back in the 80's, it was a Republican alternative to the Dem push for universal government-run coverage. The fact that they saw it as the less-bad alternative then doesn't mean that it's something that they have to support now.
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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I am proud to live in a nation where such a substantive and free-wheeling conversation can take place in public among our political leaders.

    And, I am proud to have such a intelligent and well informed national leader, President Barack Obama.

    God bless America!
    , yeah, that's what this was.

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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I am proud to live in a nation where such a substantive and free-wheeling conversation can take place in public among our political leaders.

    And, I am proud to have such a intelligent and well informed national leader, President Barack Obama.

    God bless America!
    This is either sarcasm, or the publicity stunt is working.
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