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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Ahh so you already saw it?
    If Obama was interested in working with the GOP he would not have brought forth his own plan first. He would have asked what do we need to do to get both sides to come together. Instead Obama threatens reconciliation.

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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Its nothing more than a head count and getting everyone on record for the upcoming mid-terms.
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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    If Obama was interested in working with the GOP he would not have brought forth his own plan first. He would have asked what do we need to do to get both sides to come together. Instead Obama threatens reconciliation.
    Call me when the GOP has a plan.


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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    It will be a huge dog and pony show that will accomplish exactly zero.

    Republicans will talk about insurance companies competing across state lines, which is an issue that the Democrats won't address as it is a Republican idea.

    Republicans will bring up tort reform, and the Democrats will tell us it didn't save a lot where it was tried.

    Republicans will harp on federal funding for abortions, as if that weren't a detail that could be worked out. Democrats will ignore the issue.

    Democrats will promote their watered down and thoroughly unworkable plan, while Republicans will decry it as unworkable.

    Meanwhile, nothing of note will happen, and the cost of health care will continue to soar out of reach of more and more Americans.

    That's my totally optimistic projection. it could turn out to be worse than that.
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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Call me when the GOP has a plan.
    Call me when Obama has a plan that goes into effect before 2018

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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Call me when Obama has a plan that goes into effect before 2018
    See I can't do that because as far as the summit is going right now, the GOP and Dems are doing exactly what is expected of them: nothing.

    They disagree on every single issue, so its likely we will never see anything on this healthcare business.


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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Both.

    It's supposed to be a sham, therefore it will be a successful sham.

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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    They disagree on every single issue, so its likely we will never see anything on this healthcare business.
    Well, that's good news.

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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Call me when the GOP has a plan.
    They've had a plan since last year. http://heathcare.gop.gov, though it seems like the servers are being bombed right now.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Do you think that Obama's "health care summit" will be a success or a sham?

    I don't think it's a "sham" but neither do I think it will be a success.

    But, then again, perhaps it is a sham though. I think Obama knows the GOP didn't come to debate in good faith or advance health care reform constructively. It could be that he is just wanting to shine the light on GOP obstruction and opposition to healthcare reform for the country to see with their own eyes.

    And since an OVERWHELMING majority of Americans want health care reform, and Obama KNOWS the GOP don't wanna give it to them, it very well may be politically motivated.

    Very good question.

    It's a win-win for Obama either way. Either the GOP will show their stubborness and piss off the majority of Americans who want health care reform and the democrats benefit from the voting blow-back OR the GOP will roll up their sleeves and get in the mix to help come up with some solutions.

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