Women in Combat, Yeah or Nay? - Page 2

mixedmedia · 12-20-05, 08:29 AM

I fail to see how a woman is less apt to have a successful military career, including combat duty, than your average 18-20 year old man. You obviously misunderestimate the resolve of a woman on a mission. Quaint notions about soap operas and make-up kits notwithstanding 'n all......

I suggest if you want to make an effective argument against women in combat you try a tack much less in the spirit of Archie Bunker.

I voted for Pat Benetar....although in truth I'm Just a Girl is a satirical song and could also be used to evoke the mood of a yes vote.

bandaidwoman · 12-20-05, 08:42 AM

Why don't you tell these women they can't be warriors?
http://www.lothene.demon.co.uk/others/women.html

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An English Saxon Princess led an invasion of Jutland in the 6th Century. In the 8th Century Queen Aethelburgh destroyed Taunton. In the 9th Century Queen Thyra of Denmark led her army against the Germans.
In the 10th Century Aethelflaed, Lady of Mercia led troops against the Vikings and Olga of Russia ended a revolt in which her husband had died.

The Viking Sagas and Saxo Grammaticus' "History of the Danes" mention many warrior women. Hetha, Visna and Vebiorg led companies of the Danish army. Sela and Alvid were pirates. Stikla ran away from home to become a warrior. Rusilla fought against her brother for the throne. Gurith took part in a battle to help her son. Freydis Eiriksdottir, Auðr and Þórdis all used weapons against their enemies

These are just a small sample.

Of course I grew up with the knowledge of The Trung Sisters who led an army and fought off the Chinese for many years? http://www.womeninworldhistory.com/heroine10.html

My father worked alongside female combatants and pilots in Vietnam for Air America. (They let a woman join if she could do the job) On his last mission his pilot (a female) had half her face and leg blown off during a rescue mission but flew my injured dad and collegue to safety then died when she landed the plane safely back at base. Now that's toughness.

happykat · 12-20-05, 12:16 PM

Should women be in combat? yes, some.
Should men be in combat? yes, some.

Not all women or MEN are cut out for it. Any one who makes a blanket statement saying that no woman is capable of being in combat is an ignorant dumbass.
This is a pointless question. I suppose next your going to ask if men should be nurses!
Stupid.

M14 Shooter · 12-20-05, 12:35 PM

I do not want to have to rely on Twiggy to pull me from the turret of my burning M1.

happykat · 12-20-05, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by M14 Shooter

I do not want to have to rely on Twiggy to pull me from the turret of my burning M1.

Another dumbass statement.

There are "Twiggy"-type people of both genders.

M14 Shooter · 12-20-05, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by happykat

Another dumbass statement.
There are "Twiggy"-type people of both genders.

The average man is larger, heavier and stronger than the average woman.
True or false?

the averagre man can physically do things that the avergage woman cannot.
True or false?

Its MUCH more likely that the average man would be able to pull me from a turrent fool anf out the hatch than the average woman.
True of false.

Thank you very much. Who is the dumbass?

happykat · 12-20-05, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by M14 Shooter

The average man is larger, heavier and stronger than the average woman.
True or false?

The average woman in the military will be able to carry a comparable amount to that of an average man in the military could or they wouldn't be in the MOS they are in.

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the averagre man can physically do things that the avergage woman cannot.
True or false?

The average woman can physically do things that the average man cannot, also.

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Its MUCH more likely that the average man would be able to pull me from a turrent fool anf out the hatch than the average woman.
True of false.

Depends on how fat your ass is and the strength of the person rescuing you is ....not the gender.

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Thank you very much. Who is the dumbass?

No, thank you for clearly showing that you are indeed the dumbass.

M14 Shooter · 12-20-05, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by happykat

The average woman in the military will be able to carry a comparable amount to that of an average man in the military could or they wouldn't be in the MOS they are in.

Except that women are not held to the same physical standards as men.
Whoops.

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The average woman can physically do things that the average man cannot, also.

Functions related to chilbirth arent relebvant here.

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Depends on how fat your ass is and the strength of the person rescuing you is...not the gender.

And the strength of the average man v the strength of the average woman?
ESPECIALLY upper body strength?

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No, thank you for clearly showing that you are indeed the dumbass.

As the desert said to the grain of sand.

happykat · 12-20-05, 02:10 PM

Dear M14 Shooter,
It is clear that you have a stereotypical ideal of women and their abilities and their body type. You are obviously a dinosaur-brain who thinks gender roles are cut and dry. I have but one hope that you do not go forth and multiply.
Sincerely,
happykat
P.S.
You're also a dumbass.

Deegan · 12-20-05, 02:16 PM

If the reaction is anything like it is when a woman joins this forum, I would have to say no. I just think men get their heads confused when a woman is present, this could be very dangerous, and is not really necessary IMO. I think they could be just as effective in the background though, they can press a button as well as any man. Still, I think we should keep this a one gender experience on the frontlines.