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Thread: Socialized Medicine is Evil, therefore the VA should be eliminated

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    Re: Socialized Medicine is Evil, therefore the VA should be eliminated

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    As the VA is a socialized medical system where the state owns the hospitals, employs the doctors and controls the medical procedures, it is therefore evil and must be eliminated.

    Furthermore, all politicians who voted for increasing funding to the Evil that is VA should be booted from office. Which includes Republican House Minority Leader John Boehner and Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell, both of which, amusingly have stated opposition to Obama's plan partly due to its "socialism."

    GovTrack: House Vote On Passage: H.R. 1016: Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act of 2009
    The VA is not really needed, they could just cover the costs by issuing checks for services performed.

    I don't necessarily agree that those people should get lifetime coverage, just coverage for injuries that happened while in service.
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    Re: Socialized Medicine is Evil, therefore the VA should be eliminated

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The VA is not really needed, they could just cover the costs by issuing checks for services performed.

    I don't necessarily agree that those people should get lifetime coverage, just coverage for injuries that happened while in service.
    The VA was probably started because of the unique wounds and disabilities cause by war.
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    Re: Socialized Medicine is Evil, therefore the VA should be eliminated

    The VA isn't for the whole of society.

    No one is forced to use VA services--not evn veterans.

    Hence, it's not socialized medicine.

    There's more to socialized healthcare than just being government run.
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    Re: Socialized Medicine is Evil, therefore the VA should be eliminated

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The VA isn't for the whole of society.
    True

    No one is forced to use VA services--not evn veterans.
    True

    Hence, it's not socialized medicine.
    POtaTO PoTAto

    There's more to socialized healthcare than just being government run.
    Like what? VA docs paychecks are from US GOVT.

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    Re: Socialized Medicine is Evil, therefore the VA should be eliminated

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The VA was probably started because of the unique wounds and disabilities cause by war.
    I understand that, it makes sense but I don't think they should offer services outside of injuries on the job.
    That doesn't make sense to me.
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    Re: Socialized Medicine is Evil, therefore the VA should be eliminated

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post



    POtaTO PoTAto
    No, just not socialized medicine. For healthcare to be socialized wouldn't it have to be available to the whole society?
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    Re: Socialized Medicine is Evil, therefore the VA should be eliminated

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I understand that, it makes sense but I don't think they should offer services outside of injuries on the job.
    That doesn't make sense to me.
    Full healthcare is offered to veterans who can't afford insurance. If you make too much money--like me--you can't qualify for VA bennies, unless it's a condition that stems from your military service.

    Make no mistake, a vet can't just waltz into the local VA hospital and get treated.
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    Re: Socialized Medicine is Evil, therefore the VA should be eliminated

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    As the VA is a socialized medical system where the state owns the hospitals, employs the doctors and controls the medical procedures, it is therefore evil and must be eliminated.

    Furthermore, all politicians who voted for increasing funding to the Evil that is VA should be booted from office. Which includes Republican House Minority Leader John Boehner and Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell, both of which, amusingly have stated opposition to Obama's plan partly due to its "socialism."

    GovTrack: House Vote On Passage: H.R. 1016: Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act of 2009




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    the VA is a service benefit given to many of those who were willing to sign on the line, many of them have paid far more for this care than YOU could ever understand. Using it as a loaded question really makes little logical sense..
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    Re: Socialized Medicine is Evil, therefore the VA should be eliminated

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Full healthcare is offered to veterans who can't afford insurance. If you make too much money--like me--you can't qualify for VA bennies, unless it's a condition that stems from your military service.

    Make no mistake, a vet can't just waltz into the local VA hospital and get treated.
    I do understand that some people serve with the intent to offer positive benefits for their country but a lot of others serve for a steady pay check and choice benefits.

    They would probably save money by issuing insurance type cards and paying private doctors.
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    Re: Socialized Medicine is Evil, therefore the VA should be eliminated

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Like what? VA docs paychecks are from US GOVT.
    Like the imposition of force to steal to finance unearned benefits for the general public. The VA provides earned services.

    The difference between earned and unearned isn't something socialists understand, but it's real, nonetheless.

    That's why voters should be required to earn their own living before being allowed near a ballot box. So they'll prove they know the difference between earned and unearned.

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