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People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...


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Maybe you missed this post...



How you can read that and not understand that attempts at reason would be fruitless is beyond me.

No I did not miss that post. She disagrees with you. She happens to also be right. It is not the same as drinking, if for no other reason than one is legal and one is not(she mentions this in another post, did you miss it?). She is no more close minded on the subject than you are.
 
No I did not miss that post. She disagrees with you. She happens to also be right. It is not the same as drinking, if for no other reason than one is legal and one is not(she mentions this in another post, did you miss it?). She is no more close minded on the subject than you are.

This is a tauntology. He is arguing to get rid of the law.
 
This is a tauntology. He is arguing to get rid of the law.

And he is arguing against aps, who is not arguing on whether it should be legal or not. Aps is 100 % correct in her assessment, they are not the same thing. EgoffTib was mistaken in trying to assert that she is close minded for having the nerve to be 100 % correct. furthermore, despite your claim, EgoffTib has not made any argument that I have seen for trying to get rid of the law, so you are also factually incorrect.
 
I don't think smoking weed is the same as drinking. I think since drinking is so mainstream in our culture people are way more likely to over do it. Very few people are daily weed smokers. And while the same can be said about people who drink, I think as a rule of thumb you are more likely to walk into somebody who has drinking problems than somebody who has a weed smoking problem.
 
We are? When did that happen? Let me check in with the OP:



Nope, no mention of morality there. Nice attempt to move the goalpost when you don't like the answer.

You are right, I don't like the lame ass answer that it is illegal. That's the end of your argument? Of course it is illegal, by why since the time of Mr. Thoreau should that mean anything. Clearly the law is wrong. Saying that users of pot are reprehensible merely because it is illegal completely misses the point.

It does raise the question of why it is illegal. And beyond that, why is it criminal? There is no harm done to another, so why did the powers that be make it criminal. It started as a racist law, unfairly targeting blacks and hispanics in this country, since it was they that were using it predominantly at the time. There was an overt propoganda campaign pursued that lagelled it a gateway drug and a corrupting influence on our youth. And for that they made it a criminal offense? Absolutely ****ing ridiculous.
 
There's no ambiguity over how pot became illegal and criminal. The logging giants were worried that hemp could possibly cut into their profits, especially on the basis of paper production. And while there is some difference between hemp and the pot you smoke; it all got lumped together in one huge propaganda piece by the logging industry to get the lot of it criminalized. Now it's illegal because it's been that way for some time.
 
You are right, I don't like the lame ass answer that it is illegal. That's the end of your argument? Of course it is illegal, by why since the time of Mr. Thoreau should that mean anything. Clearly the law is wrong. Saying that users of pot are reprehensible merely because it is illegal completely misses the point.

It does raise the question of why it is illegal. And beyond that, why is it criminal? There is no harm done to another, so why did the powers that be make it criminal. It started as a racist law, unfairly targeting blacks and hispanics in this country, since it was they that were using it predominantly at the time. There was an overt propoganda campaign pursued that lagelled it a gateway drug and a corrupting influence on our youth. And for that they made it a criminal offense? Absolutely ****ing ridiculous.

Then make arguments about it's legality. This thread did not ask about that, it asked what people thought of people who smoke marijuana. What I think of them is that they are criminals as it stands today. That is how it is, that is the simple fact of the matter. Saying things like "it's no different than alcohol" is demonstrably false, since one is legal, and one is not. It is a bad argument.
 
I find it interesting how some people voted in the poll and then how they presented a seemingly different argument in thread.

What's up with that?
 
Depends on how often and what happens when they do. I suppose my best answer would be...

... are identical to those who drink alcohol.

Yeah, what he said.

They're not my concern until they're operating heavy machinery...

I've know some very high-functioning pot smokers and I've known an equal number that can't make a living into their 30's...
 
This business of saying that smoking pot is the same as drinking, whatever. If it makes you feel better about your habit, keep asserting that fact. :roll:

Hmm.....drinking kills brain cells, makes you dick limp, damages your liver.

Smoking marijuana kills brain cells, damages your lungs, and ruins your diet.

Driving while drunk can lead to gross loss of vehicular control and death.

Driving while high on weed can lead to gross loss of vehicular control and death.

Yet alcohol is legal. Alcohol was banned for while because do-gooders and control freaks (aka "Progressives") wanted to interfere. Net result, high expense to society, majority totally disrespecting the law.

Marijuana is banned, because do-gooders and control freaks (aka "Progressives") wanted to interfere. Net result, high expense to society, majority totally disrespecting the law.

Yeah, can't see any reason for keeping the unconstitutional ban on a naturally growing plant in effect when it failed for manufactured alcohol.
 
And he is arguing against aps, who is not arguing on whether it should be legal or not. Aps is 100 % correct in her assessment, they are not the same thing. EgoffTib was mistaken in trying to assert that she is close minded for having the nerve to be 100 % correct. furthermore, despite your claim, EgoffTib has not made any argument that I have seen for trying to get rid of the law, so you are also factually incorrect.

Yes, there is a differance in legality. Egoff meant that from a moral standpoint they are the same. Of course this statement can't be taken 100% litterrally. You don't do that with everything.
 
Actually in the car is one of the primary places that cannabis is smoked and it causes a negligible amount of accidents compared to alcohol use.

While I concede your point, the important issue is that no one should drive while impaired, be it from beer, booze, marijuana, prescription meds, exhaustion, or anything else. It's not just the driver's life at risk.
 
I don't think smoking weed is the same as drinking. I think since drinking is so mainstream in our culture people are way more likely to over do it. Very few people are daily weed smokers. And while the same can be said about people who drink, I think as a rule of thumb you are more likely to walk into somebody who has drinking problems than somebody who has a weed smoking problem.

If so few people smoke weed, what's the big deal about legalizing or decriminalizing it?
 
Yes, there is a differance in legality. Egoff meant that from a moral standpoint they are the same. Of course this statement can't be taken 100% litterrally. You don't do that with everything.

But, and this is important, he was responding to some one who said the difference was in legality, and calling her close minded for seeing this distinction.
 
Just some clarifications I'd like to make:

1. Marijuana is dangerous and has negative health effects. There is very strong evidence it causes cancer.

2. No one should be operating a vehicle while they're stoned, period. I understand that it's not the same as alcohol but it's still dangerous.

3. Marijuana does not cause people to be smart. That is just idiotic.

4. Marijuana does not cause people to be stupid. That is just idiotic.

5. Marijuana has legitimate medicinal uses.
 
But, and this is important, he was responding to some one who said the difference was in legality, and calling her close minded for seeing this distinction.

I read what he said. He was referring to no moral distinction. Egoff was saying that since there is no moral differance there is no good reason for a legal differance. If egoff didn't know about the marijuana ban, why would he even respond?
 
Weed in my opinion makes you hungry as hell. ive had the munchies like a mofo before and my god i ate 20 small danishes myself let alone the half gallon of milk i drank with them...
 
I read what he said. He was referring to no moral distinction. Egoff was saying that since there is no moral differance there is no good reason for a legal differance. If egoff didn't know about the marijuana ban, why would he even respond?

She did not say "no moral distinction". He did not say "no moral distinction". I am responding to what they said, not what you imagine their point was.
 
Then make arguments about it's legality. This thread did not ask about that, it asked what people thought of people who smoke marijuana. What I think of them is that they are criminals as it stands today. That is how it is, that is the simple fact of the matter. Saying things like "it's no different than alcohol" is demonstrably false, since one is legal, and one is not. It is a bad argument.

The orginal argument "it's no different than alcohol" was a moral argument talking about its effects on a person. The legal argument was incorrectly introduced.

That you find people to be criminals who smoke pot is a fair and accurate, though misguided, opinion.
 
The orginal argument "it's no different than alcohol" was a moral argument talking about its effects on a person. The legal argument was incorrectly introduced.

That you find people to be criminals who smoke pot is a fair and accurate, though misguided, opinion.

Technically, that is true as long as pot is illegal, those who possess (sp?) and partake are committing a crime. It is not an opinion, in my opinion. :mrgreen: It is a stated fact. However, to be a "criminal," per se, is to have been convicted of a/the crime, is it not?

Much like doing 70 in a 55 is a crime. You're not a criminal until you pay the ticket.

That's the point. Good, wholesome, productive, loving, responsible, American citizens who partake, in their private hours, are often branded criminal, simply because of their semi-harmless pleasure. Most of the negative things about pot could be rectified overnight simply by legalizing it. It's just stupid.

Anyone who chooses tobacco, alcohol, pharmaceuticals, to enjoy their life with, yet demonizes and criticizes the pot smoker is nothing more and nothing less than a blathering hypocrite.

But, there is a yen and a yang. Both are making boo-coo money keeping it the way it is.
 
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I think that brown Mexican ditch weed should be illegal.

B.C. bud should be decriminalized. :lol:
 
People who smoke pot are heroes in the face of extremist political repression.:cool:
 
"Civil Disobedience" by Henry David Thoreau says it all about the correct response to the injustice of criminalized marijuana.
 
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