View Poll Results: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

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  • Stupid.

    28 21.21%
  • Losers.

    22 16.67%
  • Immoral.

    4 3.03%
  • Not my concern.

    54 40.91%
  • Normal.

    37 28.03%
  • Awesome!

    20 15.15%
  • Confused.

    18 13.64%
  • Hungry.

    29 21.97%
  • Drowsy.

    12 9.09%
  • Other.

    29 21.97%
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Telecaster View Post
    ...supporting a lot of ruthless, lethal traffickers.

    Of course I assume most smokers do this with a considerable level of ignorance. And not to be confused with those who grow their own.

    (I voted Other)
    The bolded part is one of the main reasons why I want drugs -all of them- legal.

    another is that drugs are too dangerous and harmful (including pot) to be controlled by the aforementioned ruthless traffickers.

    As it stands now the legal ramifications of trying to cut the traffickers out of the loop (growing ones own) is much harsher than just supporting your local black market.

    drugs are dangerous, lets allow ruthless immoral people to control them!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    That's what happens when you criminalize something. It creates a black market. Naturally, legalizing said acitivity would result in the black market going away.
    I am a supporter of legalization. But personaly, I have no profound need or desire to enter "altered states" anymore. A little high now and then wouldn't be so bad, but as long as the people of this nation continue to vote to keep it illegal, I can honor that. Particularly when I consider the violent nature of the trafficker. Regardless of why he exists, I choose to not support him.

    So let's get it legalized, then we'll see what the opportunists do about a new marijuana industry.

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Telecaster View Post
    I am a supporter of legalization. But personaly, I have no profound need or desire to enter "altered states" anymore. A little high now and then wouldn't be so bad, but as long as the people of this nation continue to vote to keep it illegal, I can honor that. Particularly when I consider the violent nature of the trafficker. Regardless of why he exists, I choose to not support him.

    So let's get it legalized, then we'll see what the opportunists do about a new marijuana industry.
    It's easy to honor something when it has no effect on your life...

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Telecaster View Post
    I am a supporter of legalization. But personaly, I have no profound need or desire to enter "altered states" anymore. A little high now and then wouldn't be so bad, but as long as the people of this nation continue to vote to keep it illegal, I can honor that. Particularly when I consider the violent nature of the trafficker. Regardless of why he exists, I choose to not support him.

    So let's get it legalized, then we'll see what the opportunists do about a new marijuana industry.
    When was this vote you mentioned, and why did I not get the memo?

    even if we could vote there are international treaties we are bound to that created the entire drug scheduling and basis for the current drug war that we did not vote on.

    "We the people" have NOT voted on the question of legality of scheduled drugs, nor can we at this point unless we vote for constitutional amendment, win supreme court battles asserting the supremacy of state constitutions (commerce clause interference there making this highly unlikely), or we renig on treaties we crammed down the throats of the rest of the world.

    btw.. legalization is not to be confused with decriminalization, that we can do and still adhere to international treaty, much like Portugal and Holland has done... it does nothing to address supply or deal with the black market though, it just makes minor possession a "civil": infraction similar to a parking ticket.
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Certainly not going to call you a liar, but I've been around a LOT of drug users in my life, and never met one who used drugs to 'feel good about themselves'. That's about the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
    I'm not going to call YOU a liar, but I've been around a lot of drug users in my life and lots have used drugs to "feel good about themselves". Not believing that is living in denial that it does occur.
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    If drugs make you feel better about yourself then why not legalize them for depressives?
    Serious side effects and addictive/abuse potential.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    But is not the purpose of most drug use, just as most people do not drink alcohol to self medicate.
    For some it IS the purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I believe there may be a psychological addiction, if I am using the term correctly, to refer to the "habit" one can form smoking pot regularly. There seems to be no physical addiction.
    No, there can be a physical addiction, though it is far less pronounced than with other drugs like heroin, and it usually only occurs with people who are heavy users.

    My anecdotal story is that I had stopped smoking repeatedly for periods of time (1 - 2 months) up to the last time I stopped 3 years ago. There were zero withdrawal symptoms that I noticed.
    Then you are not one of the folks that got physically addicted or had withdrawal symptoms.



    What types of issues? The ones I listed?
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Telecaster View Post
    But now, decades later, as a result, social smokers are forced to purchase pot that will help the trafficker thrive.
    Sure, but you have to look at the bigger picture. When you make substances illegal you are creating a black market and breeding criminals. To this day we have millions being arrested and organized crime flourishing because of a political agenda.

    You know, in my younger day I smoked a fair amount of pot. Then, as I aged I only occasionally smoked if a friend offered. But now for the past half decade or so, I decided to quit entirely due to my realization of my point above.
    That's your choice, smoke or don't smoke... But I think you should look at the bigger picture and the politics of Marijuana before you close your case.

    So now how is it that I am a hypocrite? Are you saying I am guilty by association with conservatism?!?!

    What a strange argument.
    I said SOME conservatism. SOME modern liberals are against Marijuana too, but this is what bothers me: Washington conservatives and Republicans advocate smaller government, personal freedom, and states' rights... But when it comes to even the discussion of medical marijuana, they usually agree to arrest patients in states that legalized medical use via ballot box voting.

    ..But if you are one of the conservatives who supports legalization, my hat goes off to you because you aren't a hypocrite like they are.

    The Democrats are moving towards pro-decriminalization and pro-medical Marijuana support. Not all but many of them including key congressional members like Pelosi, Frank, and even Obama who supports medical Marijuana. Blue states are continuing to legalize medical Marijuana also. I don't have much 'beef' with them since they are changing their policy to being more open minded with the Marijuana issue.

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'm not going to call YOU a liar, but I've been around a lot of drug users in my life and lots have used drugs to "feel good about themselves". Not believing that is living in denial that it does occur.
    I don't even understand how it's possible. How *could* drugs make you feel better about yourself?

    Maybe you just have a different definition of "feeling better about oneself". My definition of it is "feeling like a better person". Like, feeling more valuable as a person for having done the drug. I fail to see how smoking a joint could possible elicit the feeling that I"m a better person for smoking it. It just doesn't make sense to me.

    There are actually people out that *actually* feel that using some particular drug makes them a better person? They actually go through the thought process that if they use xx drug, they will be a better person for it?

    No wonder they're seeing you, because that's ****ing insane.

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