View Poll Results: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

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  • Stupid.

    28 21.21%
  • Losers.

    22 16.67%
  • Immoral.

    4 3.03%
  • Not my concern.

    54 40.91%
  • Normal.

    37 28.03%
  • Awesome!

    20 15.15%
  • Confused.

    18 13.64%
  • Hungry.

    29 21.97%
  • Drowsy.

    12 9.09%
  • Other.

    29 21.97%
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    But is not the purpose of most drug use, just as most people do not drink alcohol to self medicate.

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Feel good about themselves is a blanket term for people who use drugs for self gratification or deal with their problems. And a lot of people do use drugs to deal with their problems.
    Of course people use them for self-gratification. That goes without saying. That's why we do *anything*.

    And some people may use some drugs to 'drown their sorrows' away (same reason people do many things - read, play video games, eat, post on forums, etc), but that is, in no way, the same as using them to "feel good about themselves".
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Two points:

    1. There are many reasons that people use drugs.

    When a person is using drugs in a fashion to escape their problems or feel better about themselves, they are abusing drugs. It doesn't matter if the drug is legal or illegal.

    This is going to have negative psychological ramifications regardless of the legality of the drug.

    At the same time, there are also people who use drugs without abusing them. These people can be occasional drug users who do it for the enjoyable physical effects, but also use them in a self-controlled fashion.

    One of the most important factors to look for when discussing drug use is whether the person uses the drugs as a coping mechanism. If they do this, they are abusing the drug.

    2. Everyone has a different perspective regarding the potential physical harm of some behaviors. Some people will argue that tobacco use is stupid because it can cause cancer, emphysema, etc.

    To explain, some people do not care if something may decrease their life by X amount of years for various reasons. For me, the lack of belief in an immortal aspect of the individual leads me to the conclusion that an infinite number of years of nonexistence is equal to an infinite number + 30 years of nonexistence.

    If I die 30 years earlier because of some enjoyable behavior I engage in now, there is no discernible difference. In the grand scheme of things there is no difference between the possibility that I die tomorrow and the possibility that I die 60 years from now.

    And the ultimate result is inevitable. So, while I don't engage in immediately risky behaviors, and I take steps to prevent immediate death, I do not worry about potentially shortening my life by a relatively small time span.

    As such, I don't see the arguments about increased risks for cancer and other life-threatening illnesses years down the line as persuasive.

    In fact, you could say that I find these arguments to be somewhat stupid because of their rigid adherence to a subjective perspective of time.

    Essentially, the argument is that not engaging in a behavior can make you live longer, but this perspective fails to realize that nothing exists that can prevent you from being dead longer.

    A person who died in 1000 AD will be dead for just as long as a person who will die in 2100 AD.

    An infinity + 1100 = infinity no matter how you slice it.
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Two points:

    1. There are many reasons that people use drugs.

    When a person is using drugs in a fashion to escape their problems or feel better about themselves, they are abusing drugs. It doesn't matter if the drug is legal or illegal.

    This is going to have negative psychological ramifications regardless of the legality of the drug.

    At the same time, there are also people who use drugs without abusing them. These people can be occasional drug users who do it for the enjoyable physical effects, but also use them in a self-controlled fashion.

    One of the most important factors to look for when discussing drug use is whether the person uses the drugs as a coping mechanism. If they do this, they are abusing the drug.

    2. Everyone has a different perspective regarding the potential physical harm of some behaviors. Some people will argue that tobacco use is stupid because it can cause cancer, emphysema, etc.

    To explain, some people do not care if something may decrease their life by X amount of years for various reasons. For me, the lack of belief in an immortal aspect of the individual leads me to the conclusion that an infinite number of years of nonexistence is equal to an infinite number + 30 years of nonexistence.

    If I die 30 years earlier because of some enjoyable behavior I engage in now, there is no discernible difference. In the grand scheme of things there is no difference between the possibility that I die tomorrow and the possibility that I die 60 years from now.

    And the ultimate result is inevitable. So, while I don't engage in immediately risky behaviors, and I take steps to prevent immediate death, I do not worry about potentially shortening my life by a relatively small time span.

    As such, I don't see the arguments about increased risks for cancer and other life-threatening illnesses years down the line as persuasive.

    In fact, you could say that I find these arguments to be somewhat stupid because of their rigid adherence to a subjective perspective of time.

    Essentially, the argument is that not engaging in a behavior can make you live longer, but this perspective fails to realize that nothing exists that can prevent you from being dead longer.

    A person who died in 1000 AD will be dead for just as long as a person who will die in 2100 AD.

    An infinity + 1100 = infinity no matter how you slice it.
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    But, and this is important, he was responding to some one who said the difference was in legality, and calling her close minded for seeing this distinction.
    I called her close-minded because of the apparent prejudice evident in her post. Try again.
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What is your personal opinion of people who smoke marijuana?
    ...supporting a lot of ruthless, lethal traffickers.

    Of course I assume most smokers do this with a considerable level of ignorance. And not to be confused with those who grow their own.

    (I voted Other)
    Last edited by Telecaster; 02-25-10 at 01:16 AM.

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    I smoke Marijuana once or twice a month if I go to a get together with some friends on the weekend. I know plenty other smokers and alcohol users. The ones who I have come in contact with are normal and use it responsibly. The same thing goes with alcohol, it's okay to use it every now and then so long as you are responsibly... But you have to be careful with alcohol and know your limit because you could overdose or get drunk and piss your pants

    I have a common principle with this issue. As long as you are not hurting someone else, you are okay to have your fun.

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Telecaster View Post
    ...supporting a lot of ruthless, lethal traffickers.
    You are pointing your finger in the wrong direction. If you know your history, blame FDR and Nixon for the ruthless traffickers.

    Of course I assume most smokers do this with a considerable level of ignorance. And not to be confused with those who grow their own.
    I'll tell you what's really ignorant. The Republican party and some conservatives who defend FDR's (a Democrat) war on Marijuana from the 1930's. Keep giving lip service to smaller government and personal freedom while you continue to be exposed as a hypocrite on this issue.

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Telecaster View Post
    ...supporting a lot of ruthless, lethal traffickers.
    That's what happens when you criminalize something. It creates a black market. Naturally, legalizing said acitivity would result in the black market going away.

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    You are pointing your finger in the wrong direction. If you know your history, blame FDR and Nixon for the ruthless traffickers.



    I'll tell you what's really ignorant. The Republican party and some conservatives who defend FDR's (a Democrat) war on Marijuana from the 1930's. Keep giving lip service to smaller government and personal freedom while you continue to be exposed as a hypocrite on this issue.
    WOW! You really take things out there!?!

    So let me get this straight...two past presidents created the environment for murderous traffickers? Okay, I got that. But now, decades later, as a result, social smokers are forced to purchase pot that will help the trafficker thrive.

    You know, in my younger day I smoked a fair amount of pot. Then, as I aged I only occasionally smoked if a friend offered. But now for the past half decade or so, I decided to quit entirely due to my realization of my point above.

    So now how is it that I am a hypocrite? Are you saying I am guilty by association with conservatism?!?!

    What a strange argument.

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