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  • Stupid.

    28 21.21%
  • Losers.

    22 16.67%
  • Immoral.

    4 3.03%
  • Not my concern.

    54 40.91%
  • Normal.

    37 28.03%
  • Awesome!

    20 15.15%
  • Confused.

    18 13.64%
  • Hungry.

    29 21.97%
  • Drowsy.

    12 9.09%
  • Other.

    29 21.97%
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    So, what were your consequences? More ability to focus, better grades, fewer problems in school? Must have been horrible for you.
    It was horrible. I felt like a completely different human being when I was on Ritalin, like I lost my soul. That's why I refused to keep taking it.

    I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, Cap. I won't be convinced of your position and you certainly won't be convinced of mine. I'll always maintain that ADD is just BS and that prescribing Ritalin to children is wrong.

    P.S. - I'm glad you diagnose ADD using a strict criteria, and I don't doubt your altruistic intentions, but I think you would do well to consider the merits of my position and how it pertains to your field.
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It was horrible. I felt like a completely different human being when I was on Ritalin, like I lost my soul. That's why I refused to keep taking it.
    Then you had some negative side effects. If you reported them and the psychiatrists who were prescribing didn't do anything, they did you a disservice.

    You sound like someone who would walk in my office with an ADD diagnosis, and walk out with a correct diagnosis. If Ritalin changed you THAT much, either you were not ADD or you were prescribed the wrong medication.

    I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, Cap. I won't be convinced of your position and you certainly won't be convinced of mine. I'll always maintain that ADD is just BS and that prescribing Ritalin to children is wrong.
    Nope, you are not going to convince me. This reminds me of our debate 6 or 7 months ago on DADT. We are coming from two completely different disciplines and two completely different experiences. With kids how are correctly diagnosed, I have seen medications like Ritalin do very well.

    P.S. - I'm glad you diagnose ADD using a strict criteria, and I don't doubt your altruistic intentions, but I think you would do well to consider the merits of my position and how it pertains to your field.
    Here's the thing, Ethereal. You skipped over some information I placed in some of my posts. I UNdiagnose a great many kids who were slapped with an ADD diagnosis incorrectly... about 80% of all clients that walk through my door with ADD, leave without that diagnosis. It is, probably the most overused diagnosis in psychology. Also, along with medication, either I, or a specialist who works in my practice, helps to teach kids skills to deal with this diagnosis so that they do not need to take much medication... or none at all. Seems to be that you are more anti-medication than anti-ADD. One reason y'all see me on DP so late is because I spend a HUGE amount of time helping my clients so that their need for medication is minimal. I was actually working during a break from posting, tonight, managing an emergency (1:30 AM). I see the merits in your position, but it is not as black and white as you seem to be presenting it.
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    [/LIST]And I disagree. Regular, prescribed usage of prescription medication is far less dangerous than excessive usage of marijuana. With marijuana, when smoked, you have the smoking inhalation issues to content with. You also have the addiction issue to contend with, and issue that does not occur with the vast majority of prescription meds. Also, research certainly shows that excessive use of marijuana causes problems with memory, concentration, and other brain functions. Your glorification of marijuana is completely inaccurate.
    Ignoring the smoking issues, what is the addiction issue with marijuana? I don't believe it is addictive.

    Problems with marijuana causing issues with memory, concentration and other brain functions are all temporary. These issues only last as long as you are high, then return.

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Guy walks into a casino. All he has on him is $20. He plays blackjack and craps and in 6 hours, turns the $20 into $2000. "See... you can turn a small backroll into something huge" he boasts. This happens... more often than just once. It still does not disprove the rule that if you walk into a casino with a small backroll, you will walk out with a smaller one... if any at all.

    Getting high causes impairment. That's what it's SUPPOSED TO DO and why people do it. When one is impaired they do not function at their optimal level. And, in fact, their impairment can easily make them be in denial about this... kinda like "beer muscles". Also why a rational, sane person will get behind the wheel of a car, believing that they can drive just as well when "impaired".
    I don't like your casino example, as it varies the outcome, time after time. I think we can say the the response of an individual to smoking weed is more consistent.

    Yes, it causes impairment. And that is the point, you are right. But impairment is not all a bad thing is my point. There are benefits to smoking and getting high. The altering of brain chemistry to give an altered mental state is not a negative thing. It is really disturbing how the puritanical thread in America denies that.

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    People like to blame their own short coming on drugs and alcohol. that just redirects the guilt. the problem is your head, not the drugs.
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I don't like your casino example, as it varies the outcome, time after time. I think we can say the the response of an individual to smoking weed is more consistent.

    Yes, it causes impairment. And that is the point, you are right. But impairment is not all a bad thing is my point. There are benefits to smoking and getting high. The altering of brain chemistry to give an altered mental state is not a negative thing. It is really disturbing how the puritanical thread in America denies that.
    are you high right now? the response of an individual smoking weed is as varied as we are as individuals.

    don't get me wrong, i don't believe it's any more harmful than alcohol, but really, impairment isn't a bad thing?

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I have encountered MANY kids who were wrongly given the ADD diagnosis/label, and "un" diagnosed them. Too often ADD is a "garbage can" diagnosis... little Johnny can't focus in class? Give him Ritalin. Most of the time, that's NOT what's going on. Perhaps "little Johnny" is depressed. Perhaps he's anxious (most common mis-diagnosis of ADD). Perhaps he's having trouble at home. Perhaps he has some sort of learning disability. Just slapping an ADD diagnosis on a kid without thorough testing is being LAZY. If I have a kid that comes into my office having been diagnoses with ADD, I NEVER take that at face value; I do my own assessment. 80% of the time, I'd guess, they're not.
    or, as my son's psychologist diagnosed......"he's just not motivated"......which was exactly the correct diagnosis.

    no add, no adhd, at that point, my son just didn't care about school.

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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Yeah, I voted not my concern. However, I definitely judge someone who smokes pot. While it may be deemed as equivalent to drinking, drinking is legal and smoking pot, much less having it in one's possession, is illegal. I would seriously consider leaving my husband if he started smoking pot. I just can't respect someone who smokes pot. I'd be lying if I said otherwise.

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    A quick pot story, and a lesson on Human behavior. the first Concert I smoked pot at, was years ago. Nobody smoked pot at concerts here yet, so people shunned me, and even moved away. A few decades later I gave pot up for a while just to see where I was without it's influence. ---so at the next concert I went to, people shunned me and moved away from me, because I didn't smoke with them. I found the whole thing to be amusing, but telling.
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    There are a few problems associated with marijuana. First of all, rolling papers are too costly. When I somoked my first joint they were two packs for anickle and now they are two dollars a pack [just kidding]

    The pot available today is about ten times as strong as the pot from the sixties. Who knows what type of weird chemicals a dealer might use to stretch it out and what the effects would be.

    Kids now days smoke blunts, a flavored cigar wrapper stuffed with pot. One blunt with top grade pot could derail a train. And there is the ever present bong for an extra kick.

    Who needs that? You might as well be sniffing glue when you abuse it like some people do. Pot is like salt to some people. They need it to get through life but too much is unhealthy.

    So remember, don't Bogart the joint.

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