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  • Stupid.

    28 21.21%
  • Losers.

    22 16.67%
  • Immoral.

    4 3.03%
  • Not my concern.

    54 40.91%
  • Normal.

    37 28.03%
  • Awesome!

    20 15.15%
  • Confused.

    18 13.64%
  • Hungry.

    29 21.97%
  • Drowsy.

    12 9.09%
  • Other.

    29 21.97%
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    I have never understood why people use the "it's not harmful" argument, or the "it's not very harmful" argument, which are demonstratively false. A much more effective argument for marijuana use is that it's your body and should be your right, as it is no one else business. That is still not a perfect argument, but it is much more effective. Arguing that Carl Sagan got high and was smart, therefore marijuana is not bad, or the various variations on that don't make a case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Having problems remembering things is not dementia, but it can certainly be a sign of it. ADD is real, as is ADHD, and while the symptoms are similar to normal kids, trust me that when you encounter the real thing, you will know it. It's a difference of degree.
    I have encountered MANY kids who were wrongly given the ADD diagnosis/label, and "un" diagnosed them. Too often ADD is a "garbage can" diagnosis... little Johnny can't focus in class? Give him Ritalin. Most of the time, that's NOT what's going on. Perhaps "little Johnny" is depressed. Perhaps he's anxious (most common mis-diagnosis of ADD). Perhaps he's having trouble at home. Perhaps he has some sort of learning disability. Just slapping an ADD diagnosis on a kid without thorough testing is being LAZY. If I have a kid that comes into my office having been diagnoses with ADD, I NEVER take that at face value; I do my own assessment. 80% of the time, I'd guess, they're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Having problems remembering things is not dementia, but it can certainly be a sign of it. ADD is real, as is ADHD, and while the symptoms are similar to normal kids, trust me that when you encounter the real thing, you will know it. It's a difference of degree.
    I was diagnosed as having ADHD by two child psychiatrists and prescribed Ritalin, which I later refused to take. Ritalin was a nightmare and prescribing it to "ADHD" children is immoral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    ADD people are not disordered, in my opinion. They just live in the wrong time in history. I'm sure they did fine in simpler times before the demands of modern schools and urban living. I'm sure ADD people functioned just fine in hunter/gatherer and agrarian societies.
    I think it's true that folks with different disorders might thrive in certain situations, giving the impression that their disorder is not a disorder at all. This is also why any disorder has positives to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I was diagnosed as having ADHD by two child psychiatrists and prescribed Ritalin, which I later refused to take. Ritalin was a nightmare and prescribing it to "ADHD" children is immoral.
    For you. Remember to put that at the end of statements like this. For some, without Ritalin, success in academics would be near impossible. Perhaps you were not really ADHD. Or perhaps Ritalin was not the right medication. There are several others, some that are NOT stimulants.
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I was diagnosed as having ADHD by two child psychiatrists and prescribed Ritalin, which I later refused to take. Ritalin was a nightmare and prescribing it to "ADHD" children is immoral.
    i agree, my brother was diagnosed with ADD when he was younger, and he hated Ritalin, when he was in his mid teens it was suggested he try fish oil tablets, which worked, it made him concentrate more but without making him depressed and aggravated
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I have encountered MANY kids who were wrongly given the ADD diagnosis/label, and "un" diagnosed them. Too often ADD is a "garbage can" diagnosis... little Johnny can't focus in class? Give him Ritalin. Most of the time, that's NOT what's going on. Perhaps "little Johnny" is depressed. Perhaps he's anxious (most common mis-diagnosis of ADD). Perhaps he's having trouble at home. Perhaps he has some sort of learning disability. Just slapping an ADD diagnosis on a kid without thorough testing is being LAZY. If I have a kid that comes into my office having been diagnoses with ADD, I NEVER take that at face value; I do my own assessment. 80% of the time, I'd guess, they're not.
    My nephew is ADHD(was maybe, we have grown out of touch, so not sure). Ritalin was the difference between him being basically destructive, and being close to in control. While I am certainly not going to argue that ADD/ADHD is not way overdiagnosed, that does not mean it is not a real issue for some people. Thankfully, my nephew seems to finally have his life straitened out to an extent, but his childhood and teen years where a complete nightmare for my sister.
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    Re: People Who Smoke Marijuana Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Yes, let's look at them. I see nothing there that indicates being bored or being defiant. Thank you for posting the information.





    Except that's not how the DSM-IV classifies ADD NOR is it what you posted. So, all you are doing is making stuff up.
    That's exactly how it's classified. Children who:

    • Fails to give close attention to details or makes careless mistakes.
    • Has difficulty sustaining attention.
    • Does not appear to listen.
    • Struggles to follow through on instructions.
    • Has difficulty with organization.
    • Avoids or dislikes tasks requiring sustained mental effort.
    • Loses things.
    • Is easily distracted.
    • Is forgetful in daily activities.


    ...are not psychologically disordered. They just don't like the specific activity which they are being forced to engage in. Put them in front of a video game and suddenly their ADHD disappears. How can a psychological disorder only apply in certain situations?

    That's like saying that because people die in auto accidents, cars are "dangerous and life-threatening". I would think you would understand the difference. Further, you are misrepresenting my position. If someone uses marijuana excessively OR prescription drugs excessively, they are doing something dangerous and life-threatening. If they are not using them excessively, they are not.
    I'm not even talking about "excessive" usage of prescription medicine. Hundreds of thousands of people have died from regular usage. How many people have died from excessive marijuana use?

    To be clear, I'm not saying marijuana doesn't have any negative health effects (it certainly does) but I think you are exaggerating its dangers. I have literally smoked marijuana thousands of times and I'm intelligent and very athletic. Would I be more intelligent and athletic if I had never smoked marijuana? Certainly possible, but excessive marijuana usage is far less dangerous than regular usage of prescription medicine, which makes your demonization of it unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    For you. Remember to put that at the end of statements like this. For some, without Ritalin, success in academics would be near impossible.
    Because we all know success in academics is important enough to prescribe powerful drugs to children.

    Perhaps you were not really ADHD.
    I met the criteria to a T.

    Or perhaps Ritalin was not the right medication.
    Why not? While I was on Ritalin I got straight A's and behaved very well in class.

    There are several others, some that are NOT stimulants.
    Whatever they are, they shouldn't be given to children for "ADHD". The best cure is good parenting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    That's exactly how it's classified. Children who:

    • Fails to give close attention to details or makes careless mistakes.
    • Has difficulty sustaining attention.
    • Does not appear to listen.
    • Struggles to follow through on instructions.
    • Has difficulty with organization.
    • Avoids or dislikes tasks requiring sustained mental effort.
    • Loses things.
    • Is easily distracted.
    • Is forgetful in daily activities.

    And nothing here about boredom or being defiant/oppositional. The latter is a completely different diagnosis. You are wrong about this.

    ...are not psychologically disordered. They just don't like the specific activity which they are being forced to engage in. Put them in front of a video game and suddenly their ADHD disappears. How can a psychological disorder only apply in certain situations?
    Yeah, they are disordered, if they meet the criteria. And people who are diagnosed as depressed do laugh and enjoy things at times. Folks with psychological disorders are diagnosed based on the consistency/persistence of the symptoms and the amount of distress/problems that these symptoms cause.



    I'm not even talking about "excessive" usage of prescription medicine. Hundreds of thousands of people have died from regular usage. How many people have died from excessive marijuana use?

    To be clear, I'm not saying marijuana doesn't have any negative health effects (it certainly does) but I think you are exaggerating its dangers. I have literally smoked marijuana thousands of times and I'm intelligent and very athletic. Would I be more intelligent and athletic if I had never smoked marijuana? Certainly possible, but excessive marijuana usage is far less dangerous than regular usage of prescription medicine, which makes your demonization of it unnecessary.
    And I disagree. Regular, prescribed usage of prescription medication is far less dangerous than excessive usage of marijuana. With marijuana, when smoked, you have the smoking inhalation issues to content with. You also have the addiction issue to contend with, and issue that does not occur with the vast majority of prescription meds. Also, research certainly shows that excessive use of marijuana causes problems with memory, concentration, and other brain functions. Your glorification of marijuana is completely inaccurate.
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