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    Re: Is it better to have high or low taxes

    True Christianity dictates a concern for ones fellow man. It does not dictate that a Government set these standards and then force people into compliance by threat of force.

    It is supposed to read ' government of the people and by the people' not 'government by the government and for the government' or Government according to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. And unfortunately, if anybody is paying attention, that is the way it has been going.

    The Government has certain duties as outlined by the Constitution and social engineering is not one of those duties.

    In the imfamous words of Walter E Williams, I say this. "I don't believe that any moral case can be made for the forcible use of one person to serve the purposes of another".

    I approve this message and stick by it!
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    Re: Is it better to have high or low taxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I said "socialist security", didn't I?
    You say a lot of s***.So?

    Does the man of twenty today have the option of keeping that 15.4% of his pay currently siphoned off by FDR's Ponzi Scheme? No.

    Did the recipients of that money earn it? No.

    The two signature elements of socialism are demonstrated: Theft from the producer and re-distribution to those who haven't earned it.

    Socialism is the end of freedom, and slavery lasts forever.
    Like I said its not socialism when you pay into a system your whole working life and employer does as well. Social security is an easy fix,just lift the cap off of its current $109,000 a year, problem solved.

    As an aside, what would you do to the people that collect SS now? What about the current Medicare recipients, would you throw them at the overpriced hospital emergency rooms? That’s hardly cost effective.


    Yes, same thing.

    Re-distribution of wealth from the creators to the undeserving consumers.
    If some of the winger congress critters would help put-up half the effort that it takes for them to obstruct, we would have solved the healthcare problem by now.

    The cost of healtcare is fast approaching 20% of GDP, it would also solve the problem of the 45K deaths every year because of lack of healthcare. Nothing but win, win.



    100% socialist. That's why it was originally called "socialized medicine" when it was first imposed on Britain.
    Hey, I’m flexible; why not get system like they have in France where they have what is rated as the best healthcare system in the worlds and they manage to do it at about half the cost of ours? Plus they do it with private practitioners and every physician in France participates in the public health plan.



    You mean stealing it from the people who paid the most taxes already.

    Why not start taxing the people getting the unearned benefits?

    Calculate their benefits and tax them 100% of those, in addition to their other income.

    Hey, what’s wrong with letting so-called tax cut expire? The wingers were crowing when it was passed about how everyone got a big ole tax cut.

    The trouble is that the middle class, or what is left of the middle class after the disastrous eight years of the most incompetent administration that this country ever had. The middle class got about $600 of the tax cut for every $78000 of the top 1%. Nah, not stealing, just righting a wrong that shouldn’t have been implemented in the first place, especially when we were on a war footing.

    According to the Left, the is no such thing as a necessary military base.

    Since the defense budget comprises less than 1/3 of the total federal outlays, and since 2/3 of the total federal outlays are unconstitutional, how effective do you think it's going to be to shave off those military bases while leaving the unconstitutional programs alone?
    The last number I heard was we had about 750 overseas bases, at a cost of around $300 bill to maintain them. Using my handy dandy calculator we could save around $150 bill per year if we closed half of them and let some of the countries that are under our umbrellas get there own damn umbrella. We’ve been the global cop long enough, let someone else tote the badge for a while; at least until we get our house in order.

    First step: Begin teaching the children about the evils of socialism. Tell them of the moral crimaes, the economic failures, and the mass murders that litter socialism's past and present.

    Stop lying to the children.

    Cut off the Left's supply of useful idiots.
    This is just nonsense no need for a rebuttal.
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    Re: Is it better to have high or low taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomyal View Post
    When liberals spout their 'fairness' bulls**t, they always conveniently leave out that the top 1% of wage earners already pay a Socialistic 40% of all income taxes paid and the top 5% pay nearly 61%.
    Tell me, do other taxes get paid by people?

    I do enjoy watching hypocrites only discuss income tax. How about someone find a tax that the poor only pay and then complain the poor are getting screwed because they pay 80% of this tax?

    How about you be honest and look at total federal liabilities?
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    Re: Is it better to have high or low taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Tell me, do other taxes get paid by people?
    Sure they do. All the hidden taxes and sin taxes that hit the people on the lowest end of the income ladder. All the people, I might add, that are stupid enough to vote for all the legislators that are telling them "vote for me" I will sock it to the rich. Then to boot, they turn around and tax the snot out of all the items that common people need and enjoy the most.

    I think you are the one that needs to do their homework!

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    Re: Is it better to have high or low taxes

    Well personally I think everyone would be in favor of abolishing the income tax, but unfortunately that wouldn't work too well right now. If we ended the war on drugs and put an end to the wars in the middle east we could possibly go with a sales' tax model... But until then I think we will have to continue to tax people based on income. We also need to prevent any future bailouts.

    ...But I don't think the drug war will come to an end until the authoritarian Republican party picks up a dictionary and takes a look at "personal liberty" and "limited government" (which they often just give lip service to)

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    Re: Is it better to have high or low taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomyal View Post
    True Christianity dictates a concern for ones fellow man. It does not dictate that a Government set these standards and then force people into compliance by threat of force.
    So are you telling me that when Christianity was created, they said "hey, let's talk about democracy, of all things"?

    In the imfamous words of Walter E Williams, I say this. "I don't believe that any moral case can be made for the forcible use of one person to serve the purposes of another".
    So, let's not worry about society/government/all of that. Let's remove government right? Let's focus on the individual, because individuals in the U.S. are perfect.

    It is supposed to read ' government of the people and by the people' not 'government by the government and for the government' or Government according to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. And unfortunately, if anybody is paying attention, that is the way it has been going.
    Actually, if anybody is paying attention, they will notice that its government as usual.

    Humans are never satisfied, and are also never perfectly moral, so its close to impossible to have a perfectly governed democracy for the people, by the people. Power will always shift back and forth between "people" and "the government."

    Now I am not saying "**** it, let's just let government get out of control" No, I'm saying you can't have the two extremes, one being individualism in a world where chaos is human nature, and the other extreme being total control by an authority in a nation where we believe in freedom.

    We have neither one of those right now.


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    Re: Is it better to have high or low taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Well for one thing, it's my money.
    You can move to the Bahamas.
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    I didn't answer this poll because

    it can't be answered yes or no without qualifiers. What kind of country do we want, what services shall we offer, what of our poor, schools, infrastructure? People who say "NO TAXES" make me laugh. Let's give 'em what goes with that and see how long they want what comes with it. Quit bitching about taxes or go to some third world ****bag country where they better suit you. America love it or leave it? No, just a slap in the face with the realities of taxes.
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    Re: Is it better to have high or low taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You can move to the Bahamas.
    I can build a 10 bedroom home (7500sf) in Jamaica with 4 acres of property on the side of a mountian outside of Negril for less than 300k. Only thing is i would need about 12 Dobermans and one wicked fence

    So yeah.... I thought about it!
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Is it better to have high or low taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I can build a 10 bedroom home (7500sf) in Jamaica with 4 acres of property on the side of a mountian outside of Negril for less than 300k. Only thing is i would need about 12 Dobermans and one wicked fence

    So yeah.... I thought about it!
    yep...and anytime you leave your compound you need a bodyguard.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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