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Why do drug users need help? I can understand addicts needing assistance.
i can't believe i agree with this, but i do.Employers should be able to drug-test their employers for whatever reason they want. Don't like it, don't take the job.
Sounds a little big brother/big government.
Why should an employer have any business knowing the private lives of an employee as long as it doesn't affect their job?
Base employment of job performance, not on big brother snooping into private lives.
Where is the option for jailing them for breaking the law and then sending them to a rehab to help them kick dangerous and illegal habits? That's where my vote lies.
There is no civil right to take illegal drugs, sorry.
I agree that someone's drug habit off-hours isn't relevant, unless there's evidence that such use impacts the job.
Thats EXACTLY what I am saying. If there is evidence that it impacts the job, the employer should have every right to fire them.
If there is nothing evidencing impact on the job, an employer has no right delving into the private lives of its employees. You don't surrender your entire life to an employer as a condition of employment.
Exactly. A lot of people confuse rights with privileges. There is a huge difference. But, as far as privileges go, I don't see how drug use could be described as one. It is truly hell, and I wouldn't wish that privilege, or right, if someone wants to call it that, on anyone.
If I regularly smoke pot, is that a "dangerous" habit?
The right is the ability to make your own choices and be damned to public opinion, you'll take the consequences.
It's called "freedom".
Freedom rarely comes without responsibility or consequence. You can take the drugs but there may be unintended consequences, such as losing your job or going to jail. Just because you're free doesn't mean you're free from responsibility.
Having a job is not a right, civil or otherwise.
Usually the reason why employers drug test is that it gets them a better insurance rate. I am against the war on drugs. I think that you own you and thus you ought to be able to do whatever you want with your own body, but I am not sure how its fair to tell an employer that they have to pay higher insurance rates because they can no longer drug test their employees.
Not all drugs are equal. Marijuana is not as bad as heroine or most other drugs. However, I don't think cannabis use is a good thing (just like smoking isn't good in the health sense either). I wouldn't say it's dangerous if done privately outside of work and when you aren't planning on driving. Again, not all drugs are equal, marijuana shouldn't have the same status as cocaine, heroine, LCD, and other drugs.
If I regularly smoke pot, is that a "dangerous" habit?
CaptainCourtesy, Why do you feel that Welfare recipients should have to submit to drug testing? Don't you think that is kind of unfair considering everybody else in the U.S.A. is not forced to do it?
Seems a tad discriminatory to me since everybody in this country benefits from some sort of social program(s) so why single welfare folks out?
And random drug screenings at school with suspicion? You gotta be kidding me? What a nice way to get teen drop-outs.
Any crime committed while intoxicated receives DOUBLE the consequences? Walk all over a persons rights! OMG!
Cigs are harder to quit than heroine but they are legal. That should tell ya something. :roll:
Having my pee or strain of hair is not someone elses right either.
Not all drugs are equal. Marijuana is not as bad as heroine or most other drugs. However, I don't think cannabis use is a good thing (just like smoking isn't good in the health sense either). I wouldn't say it's dangerous if done privately outside of work and when you aren't planning on driving. Again, not all drugs are equal, marijuana shouldn't have the same status as cocaine, heroine, LCD, and other drugs.
Could be. Depends on if you are addicted and the additional behaviors that may go along with your use.