View Poll Results: What kind of Conservative are you?

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  • I am a Paleocon

    10 20.83%
  • I am a Neocon

    6 12.50%
  • I am a moderate Conservative, willing to compromise

    10 20.83%
  • I am a Goldwater Conservative, unwilling to compromise

    8 16.67%
  • I am a Tea Party Conservative

    9 18.75%
  • I am a Social Conservative

    5 10.42%
  • I am a Fiscal Conservative

    26 54.17%
  • I am a Libertarian leaning Conservative

    21 43.75%
  • I am a religious Conservative

    6 12.50%
  • I am an (OTHER) Conservative - Please explain.

    14 29.17%
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    Re: Conservatives only: What kind of Conservative are you?

    I'm really glad we actually have people acknowledging neo-conservative leanings. Despite what some people will run around and say, it is still rooted in part in conservative principles. Not entirely, but one could argue libertarianism isn't entirely rooted in it either. There are FAR more members of this forum that adhere to the Neo-Conservative view of the military that is diametrically opposed to the traditional conservative ideas of the military and defense found in paleoconservatism, libertarianism, etc. It strikes me how many people support neo-conservative military policy and yet wouldn't click it. Kudos to those that actually do.

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    Re: Conservatives only: What kind of Conservative are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'm really glad we actually have people acknowledging neo-conservative leanings. Despite what some people will run around and say, it is still rooted in part in conservative principles. Not entirely, but one could argue libertarianism isn't entirely rooted in it either. There are FAR more members of this forum that adhere to the Neo-Conservative view of the military that is diametrically opposed to the traditional conservative ideas of the military and defense found in paleoconservatism, libertarianism, etc. It strikes me how many people support neo-conservative military policy and yet wouldn't click it. Kudos to those that actually do.
    Even if neoconservatism is common on this forum, at least from a strong military, this poll certainly doesn't show that very much though. there was almost 3 times as many fiscal conservatives then neoconservatives.
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    Re: Conservatives only: What kind of Conservative are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    Even if neoconservatism is common on this forum, at least from a strong military, this poll certainly doesn't show that very much though. there was almost 3 times as many fiscal conservatives then neoconservatives.
    Which was kind of the point of my post. That Neo-Conservative philosophy, at least in regards to the military, is prevelant with a number of people on this forum including one that continually (a bit laughably imho) calls himself a "libertarian" yet only a small fwe are willing to admit it.

    As the poll went on you'll note many people were choosing numerous types not just one. Someone could feel they are fiscally conservative domestically yet neo-conservative when it comes to militaristic power

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    Re: Conservatives only: What kind of Conservative are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    God please don't feed it....

    Now I finally see, after the laughter stops.
    I was conservative at one time(voted for Goldwater), now I think I know better.
    I'm awaiting the Liberal selections.

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    Re: Conservatives only: What kind of Conservative are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Which was kind of the point of my post. That Neo-Conservative philosophy, at least in regards to the military, is prevelant with a number of people on this forum including one that continually (a bit laughably imho) calls himself a "libertarian" yet only a small fwe are willing to admit it.

    As the poll went on you'll note many people were choosing numerous types not just one. Someone could feel they are fiscally conservative domestically yet neo-conservative when it comes to militaristic power
    ohhhh I see what you are saying.

    It is important to note that supporting a strong military (which may not be traditionally conservative) but being against foreign involvements is still different then supporting military interventions with the same strong military.

    I personally consider support of military intervenions to be more neoconservative, and just supporting un unused strong military to not be as neoconservative.

    I would actually seperate military support of conservatives into 3 groups. Paleo-conservative (weak military and no intervention), contemporary libertarian (strong military, no intervention) and neoconservative (intervention and strong military)

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    Re: Conservatives only: What kind of Conservative are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    I would actually seperate military support of conservatives into 3 groups. Paleo-conservative (weak military and no intervention), contemporary libertarian (strong military, no intervention) and neoconservative (intervention and strong military)
    I'm sufficiently confused as to how you figure Paleoconservative ideology calls for a weak military. I would dare say a strong military is a cornerstone of just about every facet of contemporary conservatism, with what said military should be used being the conflicting point.

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    Re: Conservatives only: What kind of Conservative are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'm sufficiently confused as to how you figure Paleoconservative ideology calls for a weak military. I would dare say a strong military is a cornerstone of just about every facet of contemporary conservatism, with what said military should be used being the conflicting point.
    When I say paleo-conservative, I am meaning a literal definition of conservatives from some time in the past.

    Conservatives such as Harding during the 20's were completely fine to have a very minature military. After WWI the military was practically disbanded because of pushes of conservatives, as compared to Wilson.

    Regardless of what name you call them, conservatives immedietly before WWII supported a very small military.

    The label we give those "conservatives" (which is also a label) is less important.


    but yes, today all conservatives support a strong military, as mainstream liberals also do. but thats another issue.

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    Re: Conservatives only: What kind of Conservative are you?

    Ahhh...so you're going "paleo" as in old...not necessarily the actual political philosophy term "paleoconservative" which really came into being around the cold war era.

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    Re: Conservatives only: What kind of Conservative are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Ahhh...so you're going "paleo" as in old...not necessarily the actual political philosophy term "paleoconservative" which really came into being around the cold war era.
    :P

    well theres got to be a term for old conservatives, if paleoconservative isn't that, then someone needs to make up something.

    I am sure some people on this forum fit into that other type of conservative I am talking about

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    Re: Conservatives only: What kind of Conservative are you?

    One could go for classical conservatism I guess, however I dare say there's not many people that adhere to the ideologies of the early 1900's for either side of the aisle that likely still considers themselves todays equivilent (IE calls themself a conservative but means it as in "early 1900's conservative)

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