View Poll Results: Who should pay for these search and rescues?

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  • The State should provide this service for anyone in distress

    4 11.43%
  • There should be a case by case review based on the risk taker's level of responsiblity

    11 31.43%
  • The risk taker should pay on a sliding scale, depending on his income

    5 14.29%
  • If you risk your life and an expensive rescue ensues, it should be 100% your responsibility

    10 28.57%
  • Other, please explain

    5 14.29%
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Thread: Who should pay for expensive Search and Rescues for risk taking adventurers?

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    Re: Who should pay for expensive Search and Rescues for risk taking adventurers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    SAR efforts are also covered by taxes.
    Shouldn't be. Motorists pay an "uninsured motorist fee", so hikers and mountaineers should pay an "uninsured damn jack ass fee".

    People who do not climb mountains should not be forced to pay the rescue costs of people who do.

    Can't get simpler than that.

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    Re: Who should pay for expensive Search and Rescues for risk taking adventurers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I agree! Remember the last trio of lost hikers on Mt. Hood refused to take beacons? There should be no choice in the matter. Take a beacon or no hiking. Period!

    They put rescuers in severe danger by expending time in making guesses as to where the hikers are stranded. It's ridiculous that they would put their own safety at further risk in refusing the beacons. They did pay the price and I'm sorry for their families.





    Indeed, insurance is for this is a great idea. How badly does someone need to go climbing on mountains in the winter? If you want the privilege, then pay for it.






    Why is this not the case already?


    Overall, I agree on a case by case assessment of the risk being undertaken and then charge them or not if they need rescued. Accidents happen, but as was said by someone in this thread, mountain climbing in winter is a choice and not an accident.
    It's called an "EPIRB".....
    It is a must for any offshore boater who has at least two brain cells to rub together....

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    Re: Who should pay for expensive Search and Rescues for risk taking adventurers?

    I think S&R costs should always be paid, to some degree, by the person being rescued, after all, they engaged in an activity that was risky, they deserve to pay for that risk. I don't think that charge should be huge, maybe a couple of hundred dollars for most cases. It's when people purposely do something downright dangerous, ignore posted warnings, etc. that they should be hit with the whole charge. Stupidity ought to be punished.
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    Re: Who should pay for expensive Search and Rescues for risk taking adventurers?

    Does anyone actually have actually information on how much of the search and rescue costs are actually being paid with tax dollars?

    I am a member of the Civil Air Patrol, and I donate my time and money voluntarily. The opportunity to fly on a life saving heroic mission is all the compensation I need.

    I do agree that taxpayers shouldn't be forced to foot the bill.

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    Re: Who should pay for expensive Search and Rescues for risk taking adventurers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    It's called an "EPIRB".....
    It is a must for any offshore boater who has at least two brain cells to rub together....

    I give, what does EPIRB mean? I'm terrible at figuring out those things.

    I'm sure it's some kind of insurance, but.....

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    Re: Who should pay for expensive Search and Rescues for risk taking adventurers?

    I was a member of a rescue group. As such my opinion could be somewhat slanted. I have been in lifesaving efforts where it was the potential victims own fool hearty adventure that lead to the need for our service. I feel the person responsible (if it is clearly a situation where someone created the emergency) should participate to some degree with the cost of rescue but not to the extent that it would cripple his ability to recover financially or otherwise. BTW I was in the US Coast Guard air sea rescue unit in San Diego.
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    Re: Who should pay for expensive Search and Rescues for risk taking adventurers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reno J View Post
    I was a member of a rescue group. As such my opinion could be somewhat slanted. I have been in lifesaving efforts where it was the potential victims own fool hearty adventure that lead to the need for our service. I feel the person responsible (if it is clearly a situation where someone created the emergency) should participate to some degree with the cost of rescue but not to the extent that it would cripple his ability to recover financially or otherwise. BTW I was in the US Coast Guard air sea rescue unit in San Diego.

    You make a great point. Were such a policy implemented, that should be a consideration. Maybe fines are in order, large ones to be sure, but not so big that someone is bankrupted or unable to pay for their medical recuperation.

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    Re: Who should pay for expensive Search and Rescues for risk taking adventurers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I give, what does EPIRB mean? I'm terrible at figuring out those things.

    I'm sure it's some kind of insurance, but.....
    Emergency Positioning Indicating Radio Beacon............

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    Re: Who should pay for expensive Search and Rescues for risk taking adventurers?

    Shep Smith reports the climber's body has been found.

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    Re: Who should pay for expensive Search and Rescues for risk taking adventurers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    You tell your inssurer that your window got broken by some punk and see even after a police report will the insurer want to pay? Insurance is mostly false security.
    That's not the issue. If you want to do risky things you should pay for the costs associated with it or be insured for it. The public should not have to pay for your costly behavior.

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