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How Many Have Read Machiavelli's "The Prince"?

Does Machiavelli Apply to Today's World?

  • No, Haven't Read it.

    Votes: 4 44.4%

  • No it has no relevance today. I'm on the Left.

    Votes: 1 11.1%

  • Yes it applies. I'm on the Left.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No it has no relevance today. I'm on the Right.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Yes it applies. I'm on the Right.

    Votes: 4 44.4%

  • Somewhat, but less than umm...25%.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
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Well, it's pretty straight forward.

What's your political alignment (sorry, gotta use the flawed Left-Right schema for this) and if you've read the book, do you believe it's applicable to people in government today?

I'm a libertarian, and yes, it applies.
 
Well, that's interesting.

Looks like too many people on this board need some basic training about human nature and the nature of those in power.

How many of you have read Gulliver's Travel.

How many of you percieve the metaphors in Gulliver still being played on today's political stage?
 
I read it about 5 years ago and wrote a 10 page paper on why it doesn't apply to modern American society. But for the life of me, I cannot remember any of my reasoning or much of the book. I wonder if that paper is lurking in my laptop somewhere ...
 
"The Prince" has certain philosophical observations about human nature that are one way to run things, yes. They're general observations that have the potential to apply in any situation. But I don't think we see many of his strategies really being used today.
 
megaprogman said:
I read it about 5 years ago and wrote a 10 page paper on why it doesn't apply to modern American society. But for the life of me, I cannot remember any of my reasoning or much of the book. I wonder if that paper is lurking in my laptop somewhere ...
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But it does apply.

Not directly. I mean, Clinton had to use thugs to silence witnesses against him, but the threats of power were still there. Not the Inquisition, but Clinton's ho, the Red Queen, sicced the IRS on Billy Dale, solely to fake up a justification for their arbitrary dismissal of the White House Travel Office staff to give a plum to their friends the Bloodworth-Thomases.

Nah, there's no parallels, not at all.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
But it does apply.

Not directly. I mean, Clinton had to use thugs to silence witnesses against him, but the threats of power were still there. Not the Inquisition, but Clinton's ho, the Red Queen, sicced the IRS on Billy Dale, solely to fake up a justification for their arbitrary dismissal of the White House Travel Office staff to give a plum to their friends the Bloodworth-Thomases.

Nah, there's no parallels, not at all.
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Mod, can we move this to the "conspiracy theories" forum?
 
No poll option for me, but I think the Prince is something that all peopel should be aware of, as it has many modern implications and applications.

Also, the metaphors of Gulliver's travels are absolutely relevant today.
 
Haven't read "The Prince".

I think I've read "Gulliver's Travels", although the version I read may have been abridged.
 
I must be on the left, because, as with most things, the answer to this is, of course, "it depends."
 
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