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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I think he means the Reagan administration's direct involvement in the crack epidemic of the 1980s(via the Iran-Contra affair) while also conducting Nancy Reagan's "Just say no" anti-drug campaign.
    Maybe you should post something about that in the conspiracy theories part of the forum.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    Maybe you should post something about that in the conspiracy theories part of the forum.
    Maybe you should pick up a history book?

    CIA-Contra-Crack Cocaine Controversy

    As noted above, the Mercury News series was not only a story about the United States government and crack cocaine. It also revisited allegations concerning the Contras and drug trafficking that has been reported upon and investigated for many years. In 1987, the Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics, and International Operations of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations began an investigation focusing on allegations received by the subcommittee chairman, Senator John Kerry, concerning illegal gun-running and narcotics trafficking associated with the Contras. A two-year investigation produced a 1,166-page report in 1989 analyzing the involvement of Contra groups and supporters in drug trafficking, and the role of United States government officials in these activities. Allegations of cocaine trafficking by Contras also arose during the investigation conducted by Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh into the Iran-Contra affair. Drug trafficking allegations, however, were not the focus of that inquiry and the Walsh report included no findings on these allegations.

    The issue of drug trafficking by the Nicaraguan Contras has also been the subject of books: e.g., On Bended Knee: The Press and the Reagan Presidency, by Mark Hertsgaard, 1989; Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies, and the CIA in Central America, by Peter Dale Scott and Jonathan Marshall, 1991. It was also reported upon in the news media. Following the December 1985 piece mentioned above from the Associated Press, the San Francisco Examiner ran stories in 1986 about Norwin Meneses, Carlos Cabezas (an individual with links to Contra organizations who was convicted in the mid-1980s of drug charges), and drug trafficking by the Contras.

    It is undisputed that individuals like Meneses and Blandon, who had ties to the Contras or were Contra sympathizers, were convicted of drug trafficking, either in the United States or Central America. There is also undeniable evidence that certain groups associated with the Contras engaged in drug trafficking. The pervasiveness of such activities within the Contra movement and the United States government's knowledge of those activities, however, are still the subject of debate, and it is beyond the scope of the OIG's investigation, which we describe below. Yet it is noteworthy that, as interesting as the story of Contras and illicit drug deals may be, it was not the catalyst for the public's or the media's interest in the Dark Alliance series. Investigations into the alleged connection between Contras and cocaine dealing were conducted and articles were printed in the late 1980s, at a time when interest in the Iran-Contra story was cresting. Neither those investigations nor the published articles tracking the allegations sparked a firestorm of outrage comparable to that created by the Dark Alliance series. The furor over the Mercury News series was driven by the allegations of the government's complicity in cocaine deals within black communities. If the Dark Alliance series had been limited to reporting on Contras, it seems unlikely that the groundswell of press and public attention would have occurred.
    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Concedes Contras Linked to Drugs, But Denies Leadership Involved", Associated Press (17 April 1986).


    On April 17, 1986, the Reagan Administration released a three page report acknowledging that there were some Contra-cocaine connections in 1984 and 1985, arguing that these connections occurred at a time when the rebels were "particularly hard pressed for financial support" because U.S. aid had been cut off. The report admitted that "We have evidence of a limited number of incidents in which known drug traffickers have tried to establish connections with Nicaraguan resistance groups." The report tried to downplay the drug activity, claiming that it took place "without the authorization of resistance leaders."[6]
    Nicaraguan Contras and Cocaine

    While the contra/drug question was not the primary focus of the investigation, the Subcommittee uncovered considerable evidence relating to the Contra network which substantiated many of the initial allegations laid out before the Committee in the Spring of 1986. On the basis of this evidence, it is clear that individuals who provided support for the Contras were involved in drug trafficking, the supply network of the Contras was used by drug trafficking organizations, and elements of the Contras themselves knowingly received financial and material assistance from drug traffickers. In each case, one or another agency of the U.S. government had information regarding the involvement either while it was occurring, or immediately thereafter.
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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    Yes, he was a fiscal/small government conservative.

    "In 1981 Ronald Reagan entered the White House and immediately implemented a dramatic new economic policy agenda for the country that was dubbed "Reaganomics." [5]Reaganomics consisted of four key elements to reverse the high-inflation, slow-growth economic record of the 1970s: (1) a restrictive monetary policy designed to stabilize the value of the dollar and end runaway inflation; (2)a 25 percent across-the-board tax cut enacted (The Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981) designed to spur savings, investment, work, and economic efficiency; (3) a promise to balance the budget through domestic spending restraint; and (4) an agenda to roll back government regulation."
    Supply-Side Tax Cuts and the Truth about the Reagan Economic Record | William A. Niskanen and Stephen Moore | Cato Institute: Policy Analysis
    Well if the Cato institute says so.
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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    That's not correct. You're looking at % of GDP.

    U.S. Military Spending, 1946–2009 — Infoplease.com

    From '81 to '89, military spending increased quite largely. From $317.4 billion to $427.7 billion.
    You don't count spending like that, because then everyone spends more and no one expets them to spend less in nominal terms. We do have inflation, and we do have wage and cost increases. You must remember that taxes follow the GDP.

    However, what's important is if the president use less as a percentage of GDP. However, he wasn't a fiscal conservative, because he increased spending from 33.5% to 35%.

    My feeling is that Presidents don't have that much power, and therfore can't influence Congress that much. If the congress want to spend, they will spend. You must remember that congressmen want the best for their state only, so they can get reelected. Hence, they add a lof of wasteful spending into other bills. This is not only stpid stuff, but it could be an extra treatment in Washington DC.
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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well if the Cato institute says so.
    Cato is a good source and far from being right wing.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    Cato is a good source and far from being right wing.
    They just happen to be a Libertarian think tank.

    That is all ridiculous.
    And yet the Reagan administration conceded connections between the CIA and drug dealers in Nicaragua.
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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    They just happen to be a Libertarian think tank.



    And yet the Reagan administration conceded connections between the CIA and drug dealers in Nicaragua.
    Do you have a link to that "administration conceded" statement you made?
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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Massive deficits. In fact, he was the model Keynesian!
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Massive deficits. In fact, he was the model Keynesian!
    You mean, Congress were the model Keynesians.

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