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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and yet you offer no specifics to refute the points articulately made against reagan's regime
    I offered a link yesterday to the Cato Analysis of the Reagan Administration. Liberals like you just don't like it when someone refutes your rhetoric thus you ignore it.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I offered a link yesterday to the Cato Analysis of the Reagan Administration. Liberals like you just don't like it when someone refutes your rhetoric thus you ignore it.
    and i can direct you to the whole internet to identify facts in opposition to reagan
    the point being is you are unable to articulate any rebuttal against the points illustrating why the reagan regime is not one to be widely admired
    instead you point to some neocon think tank article (and yes i say that recognizing wayland cato's family are among my friends). if you have a point to make then offer it. pointing to a web site is insufficient ... that crap won't flush. you will not be allowed to pretend you have a point when you are unable to make one
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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Another uneducated liberal trying to pass themselves off as an intellectual. More wild accusations that are just typical liberal myths from people who cannot stand keeping more of what they earn and having a strong national defense.
    What about some wild argumentation instead of the wild rantings to counter my wild accusations?

    Or do you think declining real wages and support for terrorism abroad are good policies?

    Being quite liberal says it all about you. I fully understand why you need people like Obama in the WH and Pelosi and Reid in charge of Congress. Read the Cato Institute analysis of the Reagan years and truly educate yourself. You definitely need to go through Detox from that liberal education you received.
    The Democrats are the lesser evil but nothing more than that.

    So the Cato Institute has made an analysis of the Regan regime? And they claim he did good? Wow - I'm as surprised as if the pope had claimed that God exists.
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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and i can direct you to the whole internet to identify facts in opposition to reagan
    the point being is you are unable to articulate any rebuttal against the points illustrating why the reagan regime is not one to be widely admired
    instead you point to some neocon think tank article (and yes i say that recognizing wayland cato's family are among my friends). if you have a point to make then offer it. pointing to a web site is insufficient ... that crap won't flush. you will not be allowed to pretend you have a point when you are unable to make one
    The Cato Institute offered an non partisan, unbiased analysis of the Reagan Administration including actual referenced data which of course you do not want to read. Instead you want me to read opinion crap that is one sided and biased.

    I lived and worked during the Reagan years and never did better in my life. I kept more of my money and paid down debt thus becoming less dependent on the kind of help you and your liberal friends want to provide.

    The point of the Reagan years is this, economic growth doubled, my personal income doubled, jobs were created for almost 20 million people, govt. revenue doubled, pride in free enterprise, capitalism, and entreprenuerial spirit soared. Reagan unleased the power of the American consumer and the results drive liberals crazy. That adds to my enthusiasm over the Reagan years. People started businesses, people elevated themselves instead of waiting for the govt. to do it.

    You and your ilk can focus on parts of the 8 years that were negative but in all situations it is like a balance sheet, does the good outweigh the bad or assets exceeding liabilities. I would take the Reagan years in a heartbeat over what we have now and what your ilk is offering. Individual responsibility is a lost trait with liberals as it is always someone else's fault for personal failures. You and your ilk are dinosaurs.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Regicollis View Post
    What about some wild argumentation instead of the wild rantings to counter my wild accusations?

    Or do you think declining real wages and support for terrorism abroad are good policies?



    The Democrats are the lesser evil but nothing more than that.

    So the Cato Institute has made an analysis of the Regan regime? And they claim he did good? Wow - I'm as surprised as if the pope had claimed that God exists.

    My post refutes that as does the Cato Analysis, read the analysis and get actual facts from bea.gov, bls.gov, and the U.S. Treasury data. The Democrats aren't the lessor of two evils as the Democrats promote dependence, not independence. You keeping more of your own money seems to scare you and people like you.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The point of the Reagan years is this, economic growth doubled, my personal income doubled, jobs were created for almost 20 million people, govt. revenue doubled, pride in free enterprise, capitalism, and entreprenuerial spirit soared...
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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Regicollis View Post
    What about some wild argumentation instead of the wild rantings to counter my wild accusations?

    Or do you think declining real wages and support for terrorism abroad are good policies?



    The Democrats are the lesser evil but nothing more than that.

    So the Cato Institute has made an analysis of the Regan regime? And they claim he did good? Wow - I'm as surprised as if the pope had claimed that God exists.

    My post refutes that as does the Cato Analysis, read the analysis and get actual facts from bea.gov, bls.gov, and the U.S. Treasury data. The Democrats aren't the lessor of two evils as the Democrats promote dependence, not independence. You keeping more of your own money seems to scare you and people like you.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    My post refutes that as does the Cato Analysis, read the analysis and get actual facts from bea.gov, bls.gov, and the U.S. Treasury data. The Democrats aren't the lessor of two evils as the Democrats promote dependence, not independence. You keeping more of your own money seems to scare you and people like you.
    Reagan tripled the national debt, had unemployment rates of over 10 % in 1982 and 1983, the average unemployment rate was higher for the Reagan administration than for those of Nixon, Ford and Carter as well as the increase in productivity and job creation was slower.

    Furthermore real wages declined during the Regan years, as shown in the graph below, using data from the Bureau of Labour Statistics.



    As for "keeping more of your own money", the AMT shifted the tax burden from the rich to the middle class who lost deductions and thus had to pay more taxes.

    Add to that the Reagan slashed social programmes, thus making life even harder for those living at the bottom of society. His union-busting severely undermined the only tool working people has ever had for increasing their standards of living.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Regicollis View Post
    Reagan tripled the national debt, had unemployment rates of over 10 % in 1982 and 1983, the average unemployment rate was higher for the Reagan administration than for those of Nixon, Ford and Carter as well as the increase in productivity and job creation was slower.

    Furthermore real wages declined during the Regan years, as shown in the graph below, using data from the Bureau of Labour Statistics.



    As for "keeping more of your own money", the AMT shifted the tax burden from the rich to the middle class who lost deductions and thus had to pay more taxes.

    Add to that the Reagan slashed social programmes, thus making life even harder for those living at the bottom of society. His union-busting severely undermined the only tool working people has ever had for increasing their standards of living.

    What a great guy

    Didn't read the analysis I see. Not surprising. Reagan and the Congress added 1.7 trillion to the debt. Obama will add that much this year but you complain about Reagan? You have zero credibility. Ask the American people today whether or not they would take Reagan back and his record and only the loony left would be against that. in fact GW Bush vs. Barack Obama would be a toss up today. Get all the facts before spouting rhetoric because they make you look stupid.

    By the way when people get to keep more of their money there is less need for social programs funded by the taxpayer. Instead those are funded by charities which are the intent. You are educationally challenged.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    My post refutes that as does the Cato Analysis, read the analysis and get actual facts from bea.gov, bls.gov, and the U.S. Treasury data. The Democrats aren't the lessor of two evils as the Democrats promote dependence, not independence. You keeping more of your own money seems to scare you and people like you.
    Did you notice anything odd about your CATO link?

    Like maybe a conflict of interest.

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